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Everyone is very good, the direction of the small woman is to do Internet products, before more than six months of internship operations (in school), but also internship over three months of web development. I was advised to do 1-2 years of development and then to do product post. There are currently 3 offer, do not know how to choose:
Research and development.A wealth group located in Chaoyang CBD, they develop a new project, let me do the main page of the three modules developed (similar to two times development, the boss basically let me take full responsibility, began to refuse, on the one hand, interns have never contacted, on the other hand is the distance problem, Last night, the manpower said the boss would like to pay more than any company to welcome me to join, I do not know how to reply. ）
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Zhongguancun Software Park, a wheel company, close to home. The product manager said he could take me to a complete process, from the early research planning to the late interactive design, work five days a week, pay 3800 +.
Product hillock.Wangjing Soho, working hours are Monday to Friday from 9:30 A.M. to 8:30 and Saturday 1:30 P.M. to evening 8:30 (HR says the company rules if the day before the night after the evening 10 o'clock to the 1:30 P.M. to work), package meals, monthly salary 5000 +
Today in Friday, all the requirements of the next Monday, my goal is to be a product manager, preferably to do a technical understanding of the product, if you must choose one in which, please do a big analysis of all? Thank.
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The first one, regardless, that Fortune Group I know, is a ruined place for the product.
Second house, also good, is a little low salary. And for the new person, take the whole process is not very meaningful, first from writing product documentation to learn, to develop their own logic of thinking.
Third, it looks best at the moment. First, the salary is relatively high, and second, overtime is more ruthless. Overtime hard for the elderly is meaningless, but for the new person, is a good exercise, can let you in the shortest possible time to do a lot of practice. Any job is to be skilled at first through a lot of practice. In this company you can stay for 1 or 2 years, after familiar with, then consider going to a second company like this, broaden the breadth.
- The first one does not have to consider, they are you as a parabolic temporary workers in use, and do not want to do a real "product", just want to quickly take off the existing open source system to change it out of luck, in addition to earn some pocket money, for your career does not have any meaning.
- The second and third situations are not detailed enough to judge, at least you need to know the team situation and the specific direction of the product, and you just said the salary ... Add it.
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Be a product manager, do not necessarily participate in research and development work, want to do product manager, directly choose the work of Product manager. You've also done front-end development, and you've already learned more about technology than most product managers do today.
Temporarily choose the one near home, to tell the truth, two and San du not very good, two wages too low, three of overtime too much. Rather, temporarily with the mentality of learning to two inside work for a period of time, accumulate some experience, and then continue to find more suitable work. Thank you for inviting me.
The first one even, just graduated, money is not dirt but also not gold. Time is.
A lot of people suggest a third house, and I suggest a second one, if it's really what he says. The second home is the most worth going. But a round of dead companies are very many, do not know will not live to B round?
As for the third, overtime, every company will have, not surprising. Thanks for inviting!
Looking at other people's views, it makes sense, of course, everyone has their own views. will be different because of their experiences, so I just give you a reference, hope to give you some inspiration.
The first, the boss is local tyrants, means rich and not culture, for a fresh student said can give higher than other people's wages let you come, or really you very strong, or he is very not culture. When judging from what you say, you should be biased towards the second kind. Such a boss will only a moment of heat, promised to you are only a moment, if you do not reach the goal he expected, can not be completed on schedule and quality and quantity completed, it is ready to turn against you! And, for this kind of the whole project to an inexperienced fresh in the birth of the company, it can be seen how bad, there is no one to lead you to teach you things. On their own self-study progress is very slow and is always millet plus rifles.
Conclusion: The first house strongly does not recommend going.
The second and third families are not very detailed, especially the third. Here is a little analysis.
The second family promised to take you to a complete project process, this is the biggest attraction, you can learn to have never touched the things, and you know a project how to do, the process will encounter what kind of problems, how to solve, there are various configuration of resources and so on and so on. This is certainly based on the premise of your company, which is to have a certain size (guaranteed to teach you the professionalism of things), and really have the opportunity to contact you with this thing.
Say intact said Bad, the second company salary is a little low, I can not be sure of your salary in this industry is so, suggest you more to understand, or try to understand the company's salary structure, if the company is reliable, there will be a very perfect salary structure, but see this salary I very doubt.
The third company basically only see overtime information, also did not see what, however, I think do products, you will be exposed to the complete process of the product, otherwise how to say is the product?! People do not directly say that take you to complete the project process, perhaps this is the people are accustomed to it! You are advised to call and learn some details. As for the treatment is also more reliable, it is recommended that you do not provide more information to help analyze.
The final conclusion, the first boss is not reliable, the second from the salary to see the company is not reliable, the third information is not much but have not found what is not reliable. Suggest a third house! Xie invited
Think too much, if it is me, definitely find a pay the highest to go ... Laugh
Technology does not have to be asked to start with Hello Word, and the product manager does not necessarily require technology;
As an initial product assistant, only need to clear the product process (business process, operation process, which is important, to learn to draw flowcharts, branching process, exception process) and data (input data, display data) is sufficient;
Then, go once or several times the product flow, in the big company, feel some product manager should do what, how to do, do diary and weekly, two or three years later can come out to do product manager;
You think in which company can learn more product Manager knowledge, where to go; sister do technical overtime to stay up more hard, directly to do product bar Xie invited, sister experience and I kind of like, I have internship for half a year before the front-end development, and then transferred to do the product.
First of all
doing products doesn't have to be technical.。 At that time from the front to the product, learning + internship front-end nearly a year, to give up the technology do not contact the product, the heart is very not bottom. But from my own postgraduate experience and internship experience, I can determine that I am not suitable for technology, for example, products and markets outside of the technology more interested in, aside from the familiar environment, at this time can only be said to be follow your heart! When I began to practice the product, found that the technical experience can help me to make judgments, but colleagues will not have the technical impact, do product managers more attention to thinking.
Secondly
leadership is important .。 I have already finished the school recruit now, also confirmed the work unit. Although not able to stay in the internship unit work, but still very much appreciate the original product boss's ability and charm, in his body I learned a lot. In the process of school recruitment, also encountered a number of opportunities to choose, familiar with the product, popular product direction, high salary, leadership and good leadership. The final choice of good leadership and preferred product direction. Just entered the product manager, pay a difference of thousands of what, this stage the most important task is to quickly learn things, with the people can learn things to get exercise, less detours. I think this is the most important trade-off point in the job search process.
At last
Listen to the Heart。 Whether it is looking for work or daily life, we will face all kinds of noise intrusion, according to reason to weigh what do not want to abandon, what all want, at this time really will be tangled sad, careless work. At this time often we have a choice in the heart, just because too greedy, listen to the heart, believe back, all efforts and pay can contact, to create a satisfied self. Is the product manager of Beijing starting salary only so much now?
Monthly salary but million, indicating that they did not when you are a product manager, when you are an administrative assistant.
1. Being a manager does not necessarily have to be developed, but will develop to help product managers.
I am very much in favor of a view upstairs: To be a manager does not have to be developed, I fill in a sentence: but will develop to help product manager. (Development if lazy, I come to realize)
I am doing development, we have the project manager is planning. (Hand travel industry.) ）
Why? Because he has more experience than any one of us develop rich, know the product flow, understand many industry rules and regulations.
2. My experience in the entrepreneurial team for reference, small companies will be anything
Personal advice The first thing you say is not what you learn in this line,
really want to learn to small companies.
I personally experienced is once joined the entrepreneurial team to do development, and every day chasing other development colleagues and managers asked why, ask not necessarily are the development of the matter. But it is true that I experienced an explosion of knowledge, oh, it is. From the entire project source code to the flowchart, the business UML, all the way to the first chief development (main process) that is not in the exit. From the development, ask to planning, from planning to the fine arts, of course, I am the server development and operation of dealing with. So basically the whole hand to swim in different parts can learn, instead of the development of the school to the things are not too much.
Finally I resigned to study to know that the big Boss and manager, all want to leave me to do another project is responsible for the training inspection I ...
Farewell to the time the boss said that the rest of the day is the wages have not been deducted 5 Mao or a piece of people ...
3. What is your purpose?
We are still young, spending a few years studying and thinking than the treatment is important, because later decided the direction to consider only the treatment.
If you feel you want to learn, I think it's important to take your people.
If you want to be decent, then big company.
If you are just beginning to think about the treatment, then which one gives more money to which house.
Firsthand is a small team you can easily contact with different resources and departments, if a space office learning faster, ask more.
There's a little bigger company than that.
is the small company personal ability with the company progress together, but big companies start very high.
First job: Not necessarily a product manager, many people are later transferred to the product manager, but must be able to contact the entire product flow.
large companies high cohesion low coupling, small companies high coupling low cohesion. If you can go to a large company as a product manager Assistant or related positions are not.
Hit so many words, it turned out to be a PHP sister,
sister, I think married well more real.
