Brainwashing and education, independent thinking, and self-demarcation
Fragments of thinking
What is the difference between brainwashing and education?
"So,Lie and concealmentWill it be just the definition mark of brainwashing? As long as you tell people the truth (that is, what you think is the truth when you tell them) and avoid misleading them, as long as you keep them in such a state, in this case, they can at least do as well as they did before they independently assess their situation, so you are educating them rather than brainwashing them. "
For example, if a child grows up in a Christian family and is influenced by a Christian culture, he will recognize the Christian faith when he grows up. Is this child instilled or educated?
Hui replied: "according to dannett's standards, 'Christian cultural influence' should not be brainwashed, because children who receive such influences are not more educated than children who do not, lack of self-consciousness and autonomy. Note that his standard is the comparison between your influence and the situation in which you do nothing, rather than the ideal situation. "
What about the collectivism principles we accept, or our fathers after 50-60? This kind of education tends to suppress people's self-consciousness. People who have grown up in this environment are less likely to think about many problems. It should be more accurate to classify this impact as irrigation (xi) transmission (NAO.
Two examples are huterites young people in the communist community of North America and North Korea's remoters.
Independent thinking?
What is the meaning of "brainwashing" in the general context? For example, some common contexts, such as GCD political courses, pyramid schemes, and recent all-encompassing examples. It seems that the corresponding word "independent thinking" has also been abused... meiteng said that wumao was brainwashed, and wumao said that the cent was also. I understand that, from the perspective of confrontation with brainwashing, as an adult, it cannot be considered as "independent thinking" in the case of not being forced to make a decision?
However, the Independent thinking mentioned usually seems to be related to a question of ability. The question about whether noise and information are well distinguished, the logic is followed, and the open attitude is maintained at the same time...
Speaking of the open attitude, the strategy of tit for tat (One report and one report) is awesome.
"Good arguments allow participants to clarify their thoughts and understand their thoughts. Even if they cannot change their thoughts, they can (if Lucky) deepen their understanding of the problem; bad arguments always deviate from the subject, deepen misunderstandings, and entice participants to seek evidence for themselves.
A good commentator will first listen. If the other party is not clear, he will first organize the other party's statements and then answer them. He will not grasp the weak points of the other party. On the contrary, he will choose the most powerful question from the other party to respond. Even when the other party's question has a defect, he will fix or adjust it to make it more effective and targeted, then make your own response.
The above comments do not blame anyone. I would rather treat them as self-policemen.
Some of my friends suggested that I ignore some IDs. My practice is to follow the tit for tat strategy: at least in the first round, I should be fully sincere, as long as the other party's questions are targeted at a minimum, I will be happy to participate, and then check whether the matter will develop in a sound direction of debate, and then decide on future choices.
I have a good argument because it often gives me the opportunity to continue thinking and share this process with my friends ."
Self-demarcation
"If you make yourself small enough, you can almost externalize anything." -- tannett
A conversation with siye kids shoes before moving.
Does siye mean that he has no desire to externalize anything?
Brigade ye replied to siye: No. It refers to the demarcation of the concept of "self". For example, some people may say that you are just a machine of the genome, or some wenqing may say that the current person is only blackmailed by the materialism, we need to pursue a "real" self. The implication is that these are all excluded from the self. What is the so-called real self? In dannett's words, we can scale ourselves to an infinitely small scale, so that our genes, family, and culture will bring external influences to you. He criticized this.
Siye replied to brigade ye: What is "I", what should be internalized, what should be externalized, and suddenly a sentence "I am, all the stories are me ".....
Brigade ye replied to siye: Oh yes, the criticism can be called "onion-style self", and there will be nothing at the end of each layer.
Travel leaf: these are all part of me. We generally don't say that because we only have countless cells, and these cells have been completely updated in a few months, in a few months, I will be totally different. (You can replace the cell with an atom at a lower level ). It indicates that we understand ourselves at a certain level. Genetics, early experiences, and cultural shaping are all "me" at different levels.
When I typed this log, my roommate glanced at it and said, "Look at philosophy, don't look silly. Well, maybe, it's said that Ouyang Feng's practice went viral and shouted "who I am" over and over again ". However, it is not easy to sleep after waking up. You can only rub your face and try to find and open the window in the iron room.
2014.06.02
Brainwashing and education, independent thinking, and self-demarcation