Chat record about the "read s plan": unify the concept and determine the current work

Through this QQ chat, we have reached a consensus on the original intention, philosophy, and how to promote all aspects of the plan. Next we will prepare an operable "Implementation Outline". After the Implementation Outline is determined, you can start the project.

(The following "sea totem" is Chang Gao Wei)

 

Haitotem 19:38:09
I have read your article on the technical genealogy.
Haitotem 19:38:29
I have a rough understanding of your ideas,
Haitotem 19:39:02
Was your initial idea described in this article:
Prepare to start an open-source project-Technical genealogy-using goolge cloud computing platform in advance
Ma xiongfei 19:39:06
Well, the most basic idea is the word you selected today: knowledge aggregation.
Haitotem 19:39:35
Yes, I also suddenly want to understand it during dinner.
Ma xiongfei 19:39:41
The other is to learn together
Ma xiongfei 19:39:51
It's not about teaching many people, but about learning together.
Haitotem 19:40:30
Yes, I also hope.
Ma xiongfei 19:40:49
Of course, it may be experience-oriented, because they will have a faster understanding of the knowledge, but if it is not synchronous learning, it is difficult to accurately understand the mentality of the questioner if they have experience, and make the most appropriate answer.
Haitotem 19:41:42
Yes, my original intention is to build a shared learning environment,
Ma xiongfei 19:42:14
Well, it would be nice to have a common idea.
Haitotem 19:42:21
However, when I saw your post, the main consideration was when I was in college. At that time, I was very confused and nobody knew it.
Haitotem 19:42:53
In this regard, I think it is of great significance.
Ma xiongfei 19:45:18
For students, if they encounter problems during their learning and want to ask others, they can post on the forum or send a message to someone else. However, if someone else does not have the same context as him, it is difficult to answer the question accurately.
Ma xiongfei 19:45:46
So sometimes it doesn't mean you don't want to answer, but you can't answer it.
Ma xiongfei 19:46:15
If there is a common learning environment, the progress of each other is the same, so there will be a lot of discussions that can be discussed, and the learning knowledge can be truly mastered.
Ma xiongfei 19:46:32
This is my idea, and I am not so arrogant. I believe you can understand it.
Haitotem 19:50:59
Sorry, I accidentally restarted my computer,
Ma xiongfei 19:51:07
It doesn't matter.
Haitotem 19:51:22
Yes.
Ma xiongfei 19:51:34
I have talked so much about the original intention. What else do you have to think about.
Haitotem 19:52:14
It is basically the same, and it is also a help for people who have worked just like me.
Ma xiongfei 19:52:53
In theory, it is helpful for experienced people.
For example, I learned Maven for a while and felt very lonely.
Haitotem 19:53:19
Also, based on the description on your blog, should our group be a community that combines knowledge?
Haitotem 19:53:52
This community is more closely connected than csdn
Haitotem 19:54:14
I don't know if my understanding is correct?
Ma xiongfei 19:54:12
Generally, knowledge is used as the outline. You may want to learn the knowledge you want (that is, the Project). Do not go to the "Masters" you worship.
Haitotem 19:54:39
The basic idea is here,
Haitotem 19:54:53
Have you considered how to organize it?
Ma xiongfei 19:54:58
Then, there must be records during a project so that knowledge points and related experience can be sorted out after the project is completed for future generations to share.
Ma xiongfei 19:55:04
Okay, that's it.
Haitotem 19:55:11
Yes, yes,
Haitotem 19:55:18
It is best to generate a document
Haitotem 19:55:31
Something similar to a road map,
Ma xiongfei 19:55:38
Yes.
Haitotem 19:55:49
In this way, communication can take time.
Haitotem 19:55:56
Useful to later users.
Ma xiongfei 19:55:58
In terms of organization, we should first organize any project, right.
Ma xiongfei 19:56:09
Accept any --
Haitotem 19:56:14
Yes
Haitotem 19:56:23
What is it?
Haitotem 19:56:32
Do you have any idea?
Ma xiongfei 19:57:02
My idea is to manage according to the common project. Each project has one or several owners.
Ma xiongfei 19:57:14
Promotes the learning process.
Haitotem 19:57:53
Yes. The process should be recorded.
Ma xiongfei 19:57:56
From the perspective of the entire read s plan, I want to manage a project tree
Haitotem 19:58:04
Similar to project management plans
Haitotem 19:58:13
Details
Ma xiongfei 19:58:14
Yes, this is a solution within the group, and the read s plan is responsible for raising requirements.
Haitotem 19:59:00
What is the concept of the project tree? What is the axis?
Haitotem 19:59:14
Technical genealogy?
Ma xiongfei 19:59:48
In fact, it is the first node in the development, the expected operation, and the completed project. Each project is organized based on the knowledge structure layer by layer.
Ma xiongfei 20:00:34
This is for those who joined later. They can quickly learn about the results of the s program and spread it out.
Ma xiongfei 20:00:47
Of course, the content of this tree is mainly contributed by each project.
Ma xiongfei 20:01:15
Submit a plan for each project
Ma xiongfei 20:01:22
I think it can be measured in weeks.
Ma xiongfei 20:02:12
For example, you should learn at least one knowledge point every week and organize a corresponding discussion to form a conclusion.
Haitotem 20:02:13
How are the upper and lower layers of a tree organized?
I have not fully understood the concept of the project tree.
Ma xiongfei 20:03:07
The upper layer is actually defined by humans. For example, a Java project or a javascript project may be started at the beginning.
Ma xiongfei 20:03:17
There are two nodes.
Haitotem 20:03:26
Can the project tree you mentioned be understood as a learning road map?
Ma xiongfei 20:03:36
The contents under these two nodes are the achievements of the project.
Ma xiongfei 20:03:42
Yes
Haitotem 20:03:54
Every node is a milestone in the road map?
Ma xiongfei 20:04:06
It should be a knowledge point
Haitotem 20:04:25
Summary or experience of previous generations recorded per mileage card
Ma xiongfei 20:04:32
Or a milestone.
Ma xiongfei 20:04:48
Right. Key Points of knowledge and learning experience
Haitotem 20:04:53
Understand, and manage every knowledge point in the form of a project
Haitotem 20:05:04
Finally, a project tree is formed.
Haitotem 20:05:09
Right?
Ma xiongfei 20:05:28
There is a small problem. Not every knowledge point is a project, and a project will generate many nodes.
Ma xiongfei 20:05:35
Many knowledge points
Ma xiongfei 20:05:44
For example, Java is a project and JDBC is a knowledge point.
Haitotem 20:06:00
Ah, yes,
Haitotem 20:06:46
I think the road map is easier to understand.
Ma xiongfei 20:06:48
We are still thinking about the technology genealogy. What we leave to future generations is the learning experience and learning path. The benefits of simultaneous learning are the convenience of mutual discussion.
Haitotem 20:07:06
The project tree is a management concept.
Ma xiongfei 20:07:17
Well, let's call it a route chart.
Ma xiongfei 20:07:31
Start the project, complete the project, and submit the learning path.
Haitotem 20:07:52
Management can be managed in the form of a project tree,
Haitotem 20:08:07
Haha.
Ma xiongfei 20:08:16
I always wanted to build a system, that is, the one that uses Goole App Engine.
Ma xiongfei 20:08:21
However, the time is too short.
Haitotem 20:08:38
Specifically, what system? Is it a knowledge system?
Ma xiongfei 20:08:45
A special knowledge management system is required.
Ma xiongfei 20:09:03
It takes a long time to say this.
Haitotem 20:09:29
We can see that we walk over and leave footprints so that later people can know the direction of forward.
Ma xiongfei 20:09:55
Pair
Ma xiongfei 20:10:06
What about your ideas? Let's just say, don't be influenced by me.
Haitotem 20:10:59
This means that now we are moving forward, and a bunch of people are scattered and fighting for each other,
Haitotem 20:25:39
What we are doing now is to bring people together and walk together. When there are too many people, the road will be formed and the people will not be lost.

Ma xiongfei 20:25:46
Well, right
Haitotem 20:25:48
 
1. Build a community with closer relationships (with knowledge as the link.
2. Form a growth (forward) road map to better record previous experiences.
3. Organize everyone to make better strides on the road map and update the road map in a timely manner (the knowledge will also change over time .)
Ma xiongfei 20:26:08
Pair
Ma xiongfei 20:26:43
This idea is to form a system in the future, which is too tiring to depend on people.
Haitotem 20:26:44
This is my overall idea.
Haitotem 20:26:48
Yes.
Ma xiongfei 20:27:05
Well, I think we are quite like-minded.
Haitotem 20:27:05
But it does not seem to work to create this system on csdn.
Ma xiongfei 20:27:11
That cannot be done.
Haitotem 20:27:12
Pair
Haitotem 20:27:26
Ah, so you mentioned that we should be an open-source
Ma xiongfei 20:28:34
Everything looks beautiful, but there must be a lot of difficulties.
Haitotem 20:28:48
I also wanted to do some open-source projects when guiding roles like students.
Haitotem 20:29:07
The plan is exciting.
Ma xiongfei 20:29:31
Well, I think so too. I have been excited for a long time and I am still excited. It means this is worth doing.
Haitotem 20:30:06
At present, communities like csdn are too generic and different from our ideas.
Ma xiongfei 20:30:23
Yes, all current communities are people-oriented.
Ma xiongfei 20:30:35
Social networking
Ma xiongfei 20:30:43
It is not conducive to learning, so we need to make a technical genealogy
Ma xiongfei 20:34:21
Now, let's see how we come to an end today.
Ma xiongfei 20:34:33
Our ideas are basically unified.
Haitotem 20:34:46
Okay. Let's think about it.
Ma xiongfei 20:35:09
We will prepare an operation plan for each of the following items. Before the announcement, we will exchange some comments and merge them into a solution.
Haitotem 20:35:10
The following question should be what we should do below.
Haitotem 20:35:22
Okay.
Ma xiongfei 20:35:46
Take Laws and Regulations as an Example
Haitotem 20:35:51
We have already integrated our overall thinking. Below we can do this,
Ma xiongfei 20:36:14
The technical genealogy, the s program, and many articles I wrote earlier can be regarded as the original legal documents.
Ma xiongfei 20:36:22
Generally, the country will immediately issue an "Implementation Outline"
Haitotem 20:36:29
Ah
Understand
Ma xiongfei 20:36:43
Right, now we have to come up with the Implementation Outline.
Haitotem 20:36:53
Okay.
Haitotem 20:37:05
In addition, we 'd better do some recruitment work recently.
Ma xiongfei 20:37:17
So at what time, Friday? Try again?
Haitotem 20:37:19
Attract more people to participate
Haitotem 20:37:26
Okay,
Haitotem 20:37:31
That's Friday.
Ma xiongfei 20:37:31
I want to wait for a specific feasible plan.
Ma xiongfei 20:37:38
Friday.
Haitotem 20:37:39
Or.
Haitotem 20:37:43
Okay.
Ma xiongfei 20:37:45
PM.
Haitotem 20:37:50
Okay.
Haitotem 20:37:59
We will contact you later.
Ma xiongfei 20:38:06
Okay, that's it today.
Haitotem 20:38:09
It doesn't seem to work. I'm on a business trip on Friday.
Haitotem 20:38:15
It is estimated that it will be on the train at 8 o'clock.
Ma xiongfei 20:38:18
Ah, when are you
Haitotem 20:38:22
How about Saturday?
Ma xiongfei 20:38:24
You do.
Ma xiongfei 20:38:26
Yes
Ma xiongfei 20:38:37
Details
Haitotem 20:38:39
AM
Haitotem 20:38:42
Half
Ma xiongfei 20:38:44
Good
Haitotem 20:38:45
Half past nine
Ma xiongfei 20:38:49
OK
Haitotem 20:39:04
Okay. We are in contact for the specific time. Maybe we have time on Friday.
Haitotem 20:39:06
88
Ma xiongfei 20:39:15
OK, 88