Dai Zhikang: Ignoring copyright is actually the advantage of China's open source

Tencent Science and technology news June 14 11:15, Kangsheng to CEO Dai Zhikang, interactive wiki CEO Pan Haidong Guest to Tencent Technology president of the club, participate in the "China Open Source Road" series of interviews, Web2.0 open source and interactive users.

Kangsheng CEO Dai Zhikang (right), interactive wiki CEO Pan Haidong (in) to Tencent Technology president of the club

Core point of view:

Disregard of copyright will exacerbate China's open source

Dai Zhikang: In China there is a very important factor in favor of open source, that is, the disregard of copyright.

Pan Haidong: It may be a good environment in China, and the soil environment in China is more suitable for the development of open source.

Internet open source also pay attention to "the remainder is king"

Dai Zhikang: There are a lot of people who want to take the software company's path and sell the software. In the end, he will find that the revenue he sold to him is not the embodiment of the maximization of value, but after the real open source is the embodiment of the maximization of value. Filter out some people at this time, which is equivalent to a short-term behavior, such as I made a software, may be next year from the software to make a lot of money, so some short-term action in China is more difficult to work. Whether it's open source or closed. Many people think that after open source is not long, the road has become even longer. In fact, you will find the Internet is the remainder of the king, you have left to the line.

To operate the company well is the best advocate for web2.0 open source

Pan Haidong: From the Chinese market, many people in the open source model is actually skeptical, we are not learning Lei Feng, the world does not have a free lunch. For those of us who do business, if we can contribute to open source, that is, the company's very good operation, the result is naturally self-evident, is a very good proof.

I recently read a book, "Wiki economics: Mass collaboration can change everything." It is believed that in the context of large-scale collaboration, open source can radically change the existing business model.

"Host" Everyone good friends, welcome to Tencent Guest Chat room!

"Host" everyone QQ netizens Good morning, welcome to Tencent Technology President of the club. Today is the second issue of Open Source series interview, it is a great honor to invite Kangsheng CEO Dai Zhikang and interactive wiki CEO Pan Haidong, welcome two, please say hello to netizens.

"Dai Zhikang" everyone qq netizens good, very happy here have the opportunity to share with you about the feelings and experience of open source. Thank you!

"Pan Haidong" everyone QQ users good, I am an interactive wiki pan haidong, very happy to have the opportunity to communicate with you. Thank you!

"Host" Today please two, the main is to explore the Web2.0 Web site to face the source of the way to go. Two as entrepreneurs, before the start of the experience, is when to start thinking about their products open source?

"Dai Zhikang" we made in 01 when it was open source, has been free and open source for everyone to download the way. What would become of it later? The number of users grew very strong, but in 02 and 03 They found they had no income. You have to invest a lot of human and financial resources in the development, found completely a bottomless pit, but also to open source this way to make doubt. Because there was not a wave of open source in China at the time like it is now. You don't get a lot of attention when you really open source, and you think it's normal.

It turns out that when you actually commercialize your software, you're not getting as much as open source. Every software company in China has the same problem: piracy, especially if you want to commercialize a software environment that is particularly poor. We do not deny that in the process of making some money, can not say how much profit, but at least can maintain the company's normal operation and normal investment. Later found that the ceiling of this kind of things is very low, for example, we surveyed all the Chinese community, BBS, blog market, software platform at that time the highest ceiling is 10 million of annual income, when we do more than 6 million when we feel the next year will meet the ceiling, in 03, 04, thinking how to explore such a new development direction of software. At that time began to plan about the source of things.

Our free version and commercial version at the same time open source is in 05, because 05 years also has its own some objective situation, including its own economic strength has been to a certain foundation, feel that survival no problem. At that time we also found some business models that can be developed to support the future development of the company. So then we decided to be completely free and open source.

In the process also aroused a lot of public opinion and repercussions. A thing would have been free, you will be commercialized, charge, there will be a lot of waves. If you're free after a commercial success, you'll have all sorts of waves. But from our experience, in the field of open source as you provide a free mailbox, free Taobao, free QQ, as for commercial companies is a reasonable business model, if the business model with good words for the company in the next few years of development will produce a very big, positive promotion role. This is some of the experience we have gained in the field of open source.

Interactive Wiki CEO Pan Haidong to the Tencent Technology President's Club

"Host" twists, open source, turn to sell software, and then open source, from which to obtain commercial benefits. What about Pam?

"Pan Haidong" for open source, our company positioning is very clear, we are an internet company, not a software company. We also belong to the so-called Web2.0 company, our own wiki is to call all Internet users to be able to create a large encyclopedia on the Web together, this is actually Web2.0 everyone special emphasis is UGC (user create content), in this case we do such a thing.

In terms of positioning, 1th, because we are an internet company, not a software company, open source is already part of the strategy for us. Because the company was set up in a very short time last June, in a very shabby meeting room, we met to discuss how to do the open source thing, not to do it. Our management this point is particularly clear, now the memory is especially deep, outside cicada called bigger, I drew a road map, open source should do so, do so. Later on the development of open source is to follow this plan to do. After the release of the first version of the open source system on November 18, 2006, it is really the user's concern, the demand is very large. On this basis, we have the experience, through continuous and user communication, communication, the May 18 this year released a second edition. This time from the function, stability and other performance than the first version of a significant increase. Just as Chi Kang is here, we do the product also has a very important function, such as the user to build a wiki channel or to build a wiki site webmaster, if they are discuz users, we do a very good integration, we can do our system and DISCUZ system completely seamless integration. We understand their position, listen to their voices, and make the products that suit them and what they want. So open source is a strategic arrangement and consideration for us.