Make a project, think of old things-quotes about PHP projects

Say a year, a friend to find hope to do a project, so rough to see, reported a price of 9000 +, at that time thinking is a friend, when help him busy, 1-2 months to complete. Then is the long code, the more code is not? Yards for a whole half a year, I this friend also embarrassed to ask, he also anxious, later also about is know this not so easy. So what I say is also yards farm yards farming. After the company to find out about the market. About 100,000, but the company is using Java. net

Hehe, do ah, friends of the project you have to do anyway, as to what add money, at all embarrassed to mention. Just a friend later told me to prepare a performance shares, although this performance shares I also did not get a big dividend, but also a psychological compensation it. Only those months of labor intensity really is I have been the most tired of it months.
So, if not stay in the company, and the social disconnect is really more serious ...

No way, in order not to let the strange department of Millet think this post is not related to the plate, had to write more than a few words in the title, but this is really a problem, do not know that reverse telecommuting you have not touched this kind of thing?

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= = want to pick up reverse telecommuting. No way.

That year to pick up the teacher a live. It's all wrapped up. Front desk Background PS flash all get.
When I was done, I was given money. I didn't accept it. I do not know how much to give.

(⊙o⊙) .....!! Oh. Bcause good bully.

You have built a house for others, no money.

made a fake website. Take a 3-night wow time. 500 's not even there.

Well, I also, a small station, did not expect to dry one months, and finally gave more than 1000

= = want to pick up reverse telecommuting. No way.

can go to see, next a more contact some do the Internet, do not contact those who do technology, do contact those who want to do the website. Oh

Quick to get points, small projects are better not to do.

I dare not to answer reverse telecommuting, that tired ah. General access to small projects, the completion of the money, you can see the completion of the progress of the kind.

Big job, take a weekly salary, he wants to do as long as possible, we try to get him, or will be exhausted you.

If everything starts from scratch, the offer can't be too low, or it'll be like you are.

Do not rejoined, find themselves interested in doing something, do some small projects, more flexible than the goods, really is this, friends, said can help to get some, otherwise all connected, the project can not be difficult to get.

hahaha, it's finally going to crumble

Think of the monthly salary xxxx (X), the result is such a little cost, the more the less cost-effective, the estimated power is gone


In other words, the customer has drawn up detailed requirements, their own workload is probably able to judge,,,,, unless let other things delay

Not only collapsed, but later by the idea of doing ... Never Duanliang for so long.
Mainly did not do the type, the other one did not think of their energy has been greatly inferior, of course, there are also over the technology of overvalued ... All kinds of wrong judgments, in short, the bitter fruit of their own to eat only, but the project is done, found their level on a grade, temper also on a grade ha haha

hahaha, it's finally going to crumble

Think of the monthly salary xxxx (X), the result is such a little cost, the more the less cost-effective, the estimated power is gone


In other words, the customer has drawn up detailed requirements, their own workload is probably able to judge,,,,, unless let other things delay

Shame, it's not reverse telecommuting.

Senior year with 3 students to help teachers do 3 projects, an unfinished, know that one of the projects each other to the 20W + several teachers (design are not dry) per person a notebook ... A total of 4 months to give me 1 K, the knowledge of the harvest is less than the study of their own ....
Feel a little loss, but always thank the teacher to give a chance to experience ...

I wouldn't advise you to pick up reverse telecommuting.
At least also to set up a leather company.
How to have a female secretary .....
Otherwise, there's nothing to do when you are alive ...

I wouldn't advise you to pick up reverse telecommuting.
At least also to set up a leather company.
How to have a female secretary .....
Otherwise, there's nothing to do when you are alive ...

My life has finally come to a new goal.

Oh, I came to get points, PHP is actually very tired.

Generally according to customer requirements of the document to do, the document has to do, not mentioned a code is not much write ~~~~~~~

Determine the requirements first, and then according to the requirements, expected work cycle, to quote, better

Ox and OX, how long have you been a reverse telecommuting?

Yes, pick reverse telecommuting is a good way to exercise their temper, just at the beginning because of the understanding of the needs of the customer conflict, the result of White did encounter several times ... Orz
The change in customer demand is an absolute annoyance.

The requirements are difficult to locate, and once the business logic has been modified, your workload is huge. This might require a business logic person to figure out what's going on, or it's really hard to get back.

It's been a couple of times, and it's all a "friend" problem.

It's been a couple of times, and it's all a "friend" problem.

....

Blame ...

You didn't see it in your eyes, your friend was using the illusion ...

Not tens of thousands to do a niao ah.

Ox and OX, how long have you been a reverse telecommuting?

How to say this thing good, in fact, PHP is my second language programming. At first I learned for a while, lost several years, and then began to pick up.
This may not be connected to reverse telecommuting bar, after all, so long is the painstaking effort in the development of the thing, that can only be considered zhengye, but it is really to pay and get paid out of proportion. Back to your question, I think it may not be time to calculate it, the key is to see if you can do it down, when the line will be able to pick up, oh no, when the next is a hot taro, especially friends such a list, then basically no back. Pick up a lot of reverse telecommuting, if you feel that their strength is not enough to take some small to do, while the training side to improve it.

Yesterday just pushed a job, very tired, ready to do something yourself. I can continue to endure about 1 years, so this year intends to do something of their own, originally intended to find a few like-minded people to do, but after all, there is no experience in the team, always feel that this is hidden in all kinds of intricate things will be divided my heart.

Not tens of thousands to do a niao ah.

That's what it says. If there is such an ideal, the word farm may appear less frequently.

Did a project, 5k+, one months using free time to complete (with the industry code base), Meimei.
But at present the end of the wood received .... To urge him ...

Did a project, 5k+, one months using free time to complete (with the industry code base), Meimei.
But at present the end of the wood received .... To urge him ...

Ask for a package to raise

Find a few people co-operation Pros and cons is the right path, of course, must have a boss, either you lead, or you follow the eldest, the NBA, the advertising language, the team is five, one is easy, one is the cooperation of the things we noisy will be a good thing, their own efficiency is not enough, and take a single. June don't see pig 5000 dollars to 2w single is what team, commonly known as stir excrement team.

Reverse telecommuting there is no guarantee, no contract, and less money.

You must be good, is a friend magnanimous, at least not run a single, always better than you do not be strong.

You must be good, is a friend magnanimous, at least not run a single, always better than you do not be strong.

Because it is a friend, so I am very unkind first to put the money into the pocket, so run basically does not exist. In fact, the half of the time I did not want to do, back half of him, but he still use the eyes of trust to impress me ...

Have encountered the same things as the landlord. Although I am doing c++/embedded, not do the website.

On one occasion, the intention was to one months to two months to fix, and finally engaged in six months.

Later, a colleague of a project, as long as 5000, and later learned that other companies to their offer is 70,000.

At the beginning of a live, one months of time, a Shanghai boss actually gave me an offer of 500, said by the page to give money, the program on a page. Halo, I this is not to do website Ah, is to do hardware acquisition data, real-time storage display and so on, the key thing is not in the interface, interface on dozens of buttons. Key things in the inside, such as high-speed large data transmission of the serial port to stabilize, long-time database storage, or in the storage capacity of the embedded device, to know that flash often read and write is prone to error. At the same time the page update real-time curve can not flash, but embedded CPU clock and memory are very low.

Later, the project, time: On their own budget time based on * * + 10 days, otherwise do not do.
Remuneration: On the basis of the number of their own expectations of 1000, or do not do.
Requirements must never be changed.

Later, many projects did not pick up, and many of the outsourcing of small living people are very non-credit.
Often see a lot of QQ group inside, someone outsourced live, very simple little work, everyone who do?
Finally, a lot of people are "willing to be fooled", when they really do it, they find it's not that simple. Requirements are often modified.
Because the first demand book, write not detailed, look nothing.

Because the first demand book, write not detailed, look nothing.

Yes, this is the truth!

So when talking about the need to refine, refine to the page, refine to the button ...

Yes, more uncomfortable is that you may not be able to give a single person to describe the specific features, often need to kindergarteners-style work, or some of the single-subcontract several hands, so generally I would rather not do.

Have encountered the same things as the landlord. Although I am doing c++/embedded, not do the website.

On one occasion, the intention was to one months to two months to fix, and finally engaged in six months.

Later, a colleague of a project, as long as 5000, and later learned that other companies to their offer is 70,000.

At the beginning of a live, one months of time, a Shanghai boss actually gave me an offer of 500, said by the page to give money, the program on a page. Halo, I this is not to do website Ah, is to do hardware acquisition data, real-time storage display and so on, the key thing is not in the interface, the interface on a few ...

So Helloyou0 said with a secretary is not unreasonable, this time it should be her appearance. The problem is ... This chick can do anything. It is not technical, it is also very painful.

Reference 35 Floor Northcan's reply:

Because the first demand book, write not detailed, look nothing.


Yes, this is the truth!

So when talking about the need to refine, refine to the page, refine to the button ...

The first stage (2005-2008): Just start to take orders, remember the 2005 thing, then took a few 500 yuan single, generally is done to give money, but no matter how much the unit price, even if 500 yuan, customer demand is also a lot of, not rework basic impossible! Of course, their own level is limited!
Main development language: ASP, later contacted by some. Net
Technology: It looks rotten now, and it's mostly copied online.


The second stage (2008-2010): Found small single do very tired, so set the rules, 5000 yuan under the single do not pick up, but found that the energy is not as good as before, so generally have customers to pay 20% of the start-up fee! Otherwise, I really don't have the spirit!
Main development language:. NET, starting to touch PHP
Technology: Generally, most of the functions can be developed and done by themselves


The third stage (2010-now): There is the same as the 5000 below, received the single is to give themselves a few people set up a small team development (small team of people are relatively fixed, found that many good things, their own talk of the money also more points), but often found to earn more than wages, 3 People team develop a 5000 project, a week did not complete the basic start losing money
Main development language: net,php, occasionally for security needs to get JSP (I will not JSP)
Technology: Seems to be general, just to complete the task

So Helloyou0 said with a secretary is not unreasonable, this time it should be her appearance. The problem is ... This chick can do anything. It is not technical, it is also very painful.

Helloyou0 said the words I think the point is nothing to do Secretary

, pass by, worship, senior graduate in the cone.

Not bad.
It's all outsourced.
Now take orders, basically the workload I can estimate the same.

When it comes to estimating mistakes.

Envy, ah, there reverse telecommuting? 100 also do haha

Same as LZ's experience.

Reference 38 Floor Phpnewnew's reply:

So Helloyou0 said with a secretary is not unreasonable, this time it should be her appearance. The problem is ... This chick can do anything. It is not technical, it is also very painful.


Helloyou0 said the words I think the point is nothing to do Secretary

Male secretary?
......

Reference 40 Floor Amani11 's reply:

Reference 38 Floor Phpnewnew's reply:

So Helloyou0 said with a secretary is not unreasonable, this time it should be her appearance. The problem is ... This chick can do anything. It is not technical, it is also very painful.


Helloyou0 said the words I think the point is nothing to do Secretary

Male secretary?
......

All kinds of sexual thieves. Pulled away. Oh.. But it's good to think about it!!!

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