Numerous Sun experts leave Oracle for financial and technical difficulties

Welcome to the Oracle community forum and interact with 2 million technical staff. Since Oracle purchased Sun for $7.4 billion, Sun soon discovered that what he promised had gradually become useless. Originally, this transaction could drive Oracle Sun's flagship products such as Java and the iSCSI processor. At the same time, it could leverage the advantages of open source to bring together

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Since Oracle's $7.4 billion acquisition of Sun, Sun soon discovered that what he promised had gradually become useless. This transaction could have promoted Oracle Sun's flagship products such as Java and the iSCSI processor, at the same time, we can use the advantages of open source to bring together developers and engineers who are excellent in their respective fields. But now it seems that after Oracle acquired Sun, things were not so good.

In fact, this is not surprising. Sun's President Jonathan Schwartz and Sun's chairman, former CEO Scott McNealy, did not work with Oracle. Sun is also the most important person in Oracle. However, Oracle announced that Sun's Executive Vice President, John Fowler, was responsible for the hardware business at Sun, and President Cindy Reese, senior vice President, previously, Sun was responsible for global business operations and Vice President Mike Splain and Sun's hardware business operations.

Key figures include James Gosling, founder of Java, Tim Bray, co-inventor of XML, and Simon Phipps, who are Sun's chief open-source official. After Sun's software CTO, Gosling had been working in Oracle for two months before December. It seems that something was very intense and then he left. Tim Bray, former Sun's Web technology Director, quickly left Oracle and became an advocate of Google development. Phipps has never worked in Oracle, and he is currently a Strategic Director at ForgeRock, an open-source integrator and platform vendor.

Other well-known tasks include Sun engineers Charles Nutter and Thomas Enebo, who once guided the development of the JRuby programming language at Sun, they left and joined Engine Yard several months after Oracle announced the acquisition of Sun. Hudson, a key open-source developer, is still working on the project. Kohsuke Kawaguchi, an engineer, also left in February and set up a company to work with Hudson.

　　Why did Sun's technology leaders leave?

Gosling's blog once mentioned that he needs a lawyer after resignation. "It took me a long time to read these blogs and messages, and many people told me that I could. After these messages and communication with lawyers, I changed my resignation to a "full-time job". Gosling wrote that no one said what would happen to his next job situation.

Oracle's Offer sometimes dramatically cut the salary of former Sun employees, sometimes only equivalent to Sun's level when it was a small company, Gosling said. In a blog posted last week, he expressed praise for ForgeRock and fear for Oracle: "They are another great small company, they converted the gravel cut from Sun into a yarn. They provide services, support, and anything called OpenSSO, "Gosling writes.

"Sun and Oracle are different types of publishing companies," Charles Nutter believes that Oracle has not yet implemented Open-Source Business as promised, but Sun has previously made most of its services open-source.

Bray did not reveal much about his current situation. He mentioned in his blog: "I had a chance to stay in Oracle, but I refused. I will tell the whole story when I am not considered weird. Google seems to be the best bet, "he said.

　　Financial and technical difficulties?

Forrester analyst John Rymer believes that Sun and Oracle have a lot of different cultures, "I don't think Oracle will respect Sun. Oracle's team is indeed an expert in making money, such as selling software, but Sun's team are brilliant in inventing technology, but they are not doing anything, that's why Sun is sold.

Oracle CEO Larry Ellison has said many times about Sun's acquisitions. In a recent interview with Reuters, he said, "Even if the engineers are so good, they are given such bad instructions ." Sun's open-source strategy conflicts with Oracle's profit strategy, Rymer said. "If you are at Larry Ellison's position, where he has about 20% revenue growth and high profits, he looks at the Schwartz strategy and says, why am I doing this? According to the theory of purchasing MySQL (as Sun does), you can sell the owner of the server and storage ." Rymer said.

He also said, "I am not surprised at the departure of Gosling. He is more inclined to research talents and he is not happy to work on big machines that make money like Oracle ."

"I think cultural conflicts are closer to facts ." RedMonk analyst Michael Cote thinks so. When Sun seeks to explore and develop advanced engineering and technical talents, Oracle is more concerned with the construction and acquisition of business models, such as the successful combination of Siebel and Renke.

IDC analyst AI Hilwa also admitted that cultural differences play an important role in this merger, "I think Gosling is an example. He is a great spirit and is more casual ."

John Rymer believes that Oracle may suffer some blows from Sun's loss of innovative talent. However, most of Sun's software products are still working, and the Glassfish application server is not Oracle's Strategy (Oracle issued a statement saying it will continue to talk about Glassfish as a department product ).

Rymer added: "I still don't think Oracle has come up with a new hardware plan ."