2006-07-16 18:09:59 ROC
Hello
18:10:29 qingrun
Hello.
2006-07-16 18:11:53 ROC
I do not know if you are empty now? Haha
18:11:16 qingrun
Playing chess now. Haha
2006-07-16 18:12:19 ROC
Go?
2006-07-16 18:13:49 ROC
Haha ~~
I don't know. Have you read this.
Ask for your suggestions when you are idle ~~
2006-07-16 18:13:54 ROC
Xie Xian
18:13:10 qingrun
You're welcome. I haven't seen it yet.
2006-07-16 18:15:19 ROC
Well, I'll try again and try again.
18:14:30 qingrun
Okay.
2006-07-16 18:32:38 ROC
I just graduated from this year. I signed in *** (a company name). I did Java during my internship. This is exactly my favorite direction.
But when I reported to the company, the manager said that the Java project team is not missing now. I want to assign my classmates and I to the COBOL group (our department is mainly in two directions: Cobol and Java, outsourcing to Japan)
As far as I know, only a small part of the COBOL group will be used for Java later, and if I participate in this project, it will take at least half a year.
I first read the introduction of <programmer> and thought this language has some advantages, but it is not very promising in China.
By the way, let's talk about my family. my parents are nearly 60 years old and are in poor health, so I have to stay in Liaoning (my home is in Shenyang ). the total monthly income of parents is about 1000 points. I have to deduct about 500 of my father's money.
So I am not making a default decision as easily as other students, even if only 3000 yuan .. in addition, in #### (name of a company), I think that although I didn't earn much in the first three years, I should earn several thousand more yuan/year in comparison to & (name of a company/
However, if the prospect of COBOL is really poor, I don't want to influence the future of future development because of 3000 blocks (although I can study Java in free time, however, it is common for the Department to work overtime until ).
I made the worst plan: I only use COBOL for three years, but I don't know what impact this will have on my future.
So, I 'd like to hear your opinion.
Must I change my company? & (Name of a company) I can make sure that I can (Dalian I don't know other companies ...).
If I don't change it, I will make the worst plan. What kind of plan should I do in the past three years .? Well, you should pay attention to the points and directions below.
If I want to change back to Java, how can I say better to my manager? After all, when I first came to the company, I was afraid of my superiors (this may be a common problem for Chinese people ?).
18:59:11 qingrun
You have a misunderstanding here.
Your understanding of the language.
However, I can understand your situation.
2006-07-16 19:00:32 ROC
Well... Can you tell me more?
18:59:59 qingrun
Language is of little significance to a real programmer.
Of course, you are familiar with the class libraries and methods of a language. This is your skill, but it is just a superficial skill.
2006-07-16 19:01:20 ROC
Pair
19:01:41 qingrun
Languages have their own applicability. Different Languages have different requirements.
However, for COBOL, This is a language originally used for commercial computing and logic implementation. In foreign countries, there are very few programmers in such languages, and most of them are older. However, their income is very high-this also shows that society recognizes them.
19:02:13 qingrun
However, in China, there are very few systems made of COBOL, so many people even don't even know what it is, which is also a social reality.
2006-07-16 19:03:53 ROC
Hmm
2006-07-16 19:03:49 ROC
I started learning only after I was in college 3. so, I think. in the first three to five years, I think I may be able to make up my debt. you should also talk about the surface skills. then, I can continue to practice
19:02:57 qingrun
You have heard too much about Java over the past few years.
So I think Java is good. In fact, applications that are not used in different environments cannot be changed at will.
19:03:26 qingrun
Well, you should be familiar with it. Don't underestimate any language. This does not matter.
2006-07-16 19:04:39 ROC
I don't think so. I like Java because I hate Ms ~~ Although windows
2006-07-16 19:05:10 ROC
C ++ is not good at university time.
2006-07-16 19:05:15 ROC
Hmm
19:04:49 qingrun
Do not be overly picky. You should look at these problems from an objective perspective.
2006-07-16 19:06:13 ROC
However, there is very little information about COBOL, and I have read about the project. It is basically time-consuming.
2006-07-16 19:06:28 ROC
What do you mean?
19:05:42 qingrun
Okay, I don't need to talk about the rest. Haha
2006-07-16 19:06:55 ROC
Well, I understand what you mean. I will continue to work hard.
19:06:15 qingrun
Well.
2006-07-16 19:07:20 ROC
I believe in myself.
19:06:33 qingrun
Well, try again.
2006-07-16 19:07:51 ROC
Thank you for taking the rest time to guide me.
PS: I am your fans ~~
2006-07-16 19:08:05 ROC
Well, don't bother, huh, huh
19:07:13 qingrun
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2006-07-16 19:08:14 ROC
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Supplementary content 1:
Many of my friends mentioned the impact of language, especially people's interest in language.
I think I can add some personal opinions (which may be incorrect ):
When a person just entered the software industry, his interest in and choice of language depend entirely on the public comments he heard about the language, rather than the true interests and dislikes.
Because this beginner does not know or have never heard of other languages, he will naturally not be interested in such languages that he has never heard. This analysis should be detailed later.
He will only be interested in the language he has heard and commented on, but whether this interest determines whether he can develop in this language is hard to define. Or is it true that he is interested in the language? This depends on the future.
In addition, I have a point of view: a person's entry language cannot determine anything, nor how long the person will take in the software industry and what he or she is interested in, this is the basis of my conversation.
You can consider this situation objectively.
Supplement 2:
Some of my friends mentioned the problem of hiding something. This is indeed my negligence. However, it is enough for me to hide the most important one. As for the specific company he went to, everyone had to guess. This should be enough. But thanks to the friend for reminding me.