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First a section of popular science.
In any city, especially in big cities, provincial capitals, mega cities, municipalities, as long as you have a unit of the collective account, as long as you leave, the unit will want you to move out of the account and files. As for where you moved, it doesn't matter. In short, you have to go, you are not its employees, it has no obligation to help you keep the accounts and files.
Under normal circumstances, after leaving the office, if there is no place to store accounts and files, either you have to sign the account file back to your home country, or you put your account and files in the current city of a "talent center."
Now the situation is that all the talent centres in Beijing do not accept collective accounts. Once you leave, it is difficult to find a place to store, for this reason, a large part of the people who want to leave the state-owned enterprises in Beijing, finally forget, continue to stick in the state-owned enterprises.
Want to enter a new unit, the original unit will be issued to you "Exit certificate", without it, serious new unit is unable to get you into the job. And, the original unit, will often ask you to move out of the account and file, if you do not move out, then it (CAN) do not give you a "Certificate of separation." Is there any new employer who does not look at the exit certificate? I do not know.
Do not move out, the direct walk of another consequence is that in the future you want to use the account, the original unit (CAN) do not give you proof, (CAN) do not give you the Hukou home page, (CAN) do not give you a stamp. Why parentheses? Because it is known that a small number of units allow you to continue to leave after leaving, but this is not universal, you can not guarantee the future of the company's HR and executives of the substitution, nor can the old colleagues in the future still work in the original unit, you have a good relationship with them, he promised you to help you later, but after the substitution, The new principals and new colleagues don't necessarily buy your account. You can't even predict how many years you can buy a house after you change your new club. So, even if you do not move away, when the ostrich, once it is difficult for you, you can not eat, there is a great hidden trouble.
1, if is to move to Beijing's foreign enterprises
Beijing's foreign enterprises, has its own collective and cooperative talent Center.
A foreign company in Beijing opened civil status in the following two human resources companies.
They are:
China International Technical Intelligence Cooperation Company Foreign Service Branch (referred to as Zhong Zhi)
Beijing Foreign Enterprise Service Group Co., Ltd. (Foreign Enterprises Service Corporation, hereinafter referred to as FESCO)
If you're going to a foreign company that opens a group in any of the two human resources companies, you can ask the new owner to move your collective account in.
However, if you enter this foreign company, in the future when you leave, it will also ask you to move out, the limit is one months, if you do not move after one months, you freeze the account.
As for the meaning of freezing, I understand that it is not to write off, but to use it when you do not lend it to you. Whether this understanding or not, you need to ask yourself.
Job-hopping to foreign companies, not universal, first of all, you can not guarantee that your work experience in state-owned enterprises will be recognized by foreign companies, if you play a few years miscellaneous, not to mention foreign companies, is small private enterprises may be difficult to you.
Second, even if your work experience can meet the requirements of a foreign company, the interview can be passed also two said. So, if you want to go this way, be sure to try to keep your skills and skills in progress.
And just said, even if you went to a foreign company, and the collective account followed by the past, you may not always be there, right. In case you have worked for two years, bored, tired, and want to job-hopping. Then you can only continue to other foreign companies, if you go to the domestic private enterprises, then I am sorry, it will require you to move out of the account and file.
2, if it is to move to Beijing, private enterprises or other state-owned enterprises
(1) State-owned enterprises jumped to other state-owned enterprises in Beijing.
I do not know how the new unit in this kind of situation to deal with the account, because I have seen the state-owned enterprises jumped to the state-owned enterprises, all have been in Beijing to buy a house, the hukou into the home, converted into a personal account, and then jumped. I've never seen anyone jump from a state-owned enterprise to a state-owned enterprise without buying a house. The environment and atmosphere of state-owned enterprises is a ball-like, jumping from state-owned enterprises to state-owned enterprises, I really do not understand.
(2) The state-owned enterprises jumped to Beijing private enterprises. or private companies jumping to other private companies in Beijing.
This is the most common situation that is encountered at the moment. That's what I'm going to talk about right now.
As far as I can say, seven or eight years ago, this question has been asked. Until 2012, most of them could find a talent center to solve problems.
Since about 2013, the major talent centers in Beijing have begun to fall into the fall and have ceased to handle the personal archives of collective accounts. After August 2014, there is basically no one to find. In the first half of 2015, Shijingshan District's Chemical Talent Center also accepted, the cost is a bit high, that is actually illegal, and then was stabbed out by reporters, on the newspaper, on the news, and then the chemical talent Center also fell. At present I do not know which talent Center can accept personal deposit account and file. Talent Center, will not reopen this business later, I also do not know.
Talent Center only accept the unit name archive. According to my own understanding, this should refer to the unit for fresh students to solve the situation of the hukou. Beijing has long restricted the migration of collective accounts in the city.
If it is job-hopping, the new owners can be in the name of the unit to you to file, I know one example, is state-owned enterprises to state-owned enterprises, and that one case or last year, not to determine whether it is universal. Just now said, the job-hopping people, most should not want to enter the state-owned enterprises.
Before 2014 and 2014, individuals were in the name of each talent center, and they were caught up in a good time. Not now.
It will continue to serve you, borrow the account, and so on.
Now, the new people want to be in the name of personal account, file, do not accept.
OK, now on the main course.
Now there is a human resources company, full name: Mampar Human Resources (Beijing) Co., Ltd., it is in Fengtai District, Beijing, advisory telephone is 400-877-1201
The website's website is http://www.manpaer.com/index.html
It accepts the Beijing collective account custodian of the departing personnel, you can store the Beijing collective account and the file in the personal name, the request is the account and the file must move in simultaneously.
And, if you move in the future, the account and file to move together, it can not handle the account, the separation of files, to separate, you have to move away.
After the deposit, it is ready to serve you, for example, you buy a house, get married, need to use the hukou card, it is ready to borrow.
To illustrate, if you have a child before you buy a house, it cannot be settled for your child's follow-up.
If you exist here, there is no time limit, as long as the deposit in, want to save how many years, save how many years.
Current (September 2015), its quotation fee is: 10,000 per year, after the normal renewal, I did not ask for a renewal fee.
The major talent centers do not accept, why it can do it. It said it was a partner with a talent center, but it wouldn't tell me which one it was.
Also, it halted the business of the Beijing collective account escrow in the first half of 2015, about 4 May, and restarted the business about 1 months ago. It says it is affected by the policy of the talent center, if it can, it can be; Talent Center if not, it will not work. According to it, the implication is that there should be a talent center can handle the collective account escrow, but I (we) can't find it, many alumni and netizens have called to inquire a lot of talent center, nothing.
I suspect that it is through the talent center, the user's collective account in the name of some state-owned enterprises. Then it and the talent Center partner charge High escrow fees and make money. That should be the case.
Then I asked, "Wouldn't this business be a guarantee of sustainability, for example, this month, maybe 3-6 months or a year or two? 】
It said that, at least for the present (September 2015) is possible, as long as the deposit in the future, even if no longer accept new people, will continue to provide services for the elderly.
It's legitimacy that I can't verify, only that someone has already put the collective account and the file there.
If you want to leave the state-owned enterprises, please consult Mampar yourself. I have no intention of advertising it.
Also, don't take this post to the outside reprint. In case it is not legal, a reprint, the whole town is Cicada, on the news, it is estimated to stop business, so that can not continue to benefit the younger generation.
Also, it's home page, write is the country has business, so, if you have who in Shenzhen, Shanghai, want to leave, you can ask its branch. Beijing is so complex, it can do it, Shenzhen and Shanghai, it may also, and other cities in the country.
The reason why I sent this post today is because I just know it.
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It is now September 16, 2015 15:31, important update.
For this post 11 floor of the @ small bulb classmate said, Hanlsen, I have just confirmed, it is also can accept the separation of personnel in the name of personal custody of Beijing collective accounts and files.
Details are as follows:
Company full name: its own profile is called Beijing Hudson Management Consulting Co., Ltd., on the website is called Beijing Hudson Company
Website's website http://www.helsen.com.cn/
This company in Chaoyang District, collective account, file hosting please call 010-65510056, contact person called "Lee what Good", is a female.
It accepts the separation of staff in the name of personal custody of Beijing collective accounts and files, the condition is: your current account must be stored in Beijing, such as a talent center or XXX job.
Explain, for example, you work in a research institute of CAS, in fact, your account is not in this institute, but is commissioned by the Institute of the Chinese Academy of Sciences Talent Exchange Development Center, so that is possible. Chinese Academy of Sciences, as long as the "project hire" approach to recruit official employees, the hukou should be in the CAS Talent Exchange Development Center or the Chinese Academy of Sciences Talent Exchange Development center North Suburb Division.
In short, the place where you are currently depositing your account, you have to be on a lateral line. Human Resource company or other HR company in foreign companies I forgot to ask, this should also be a lateral.
Aerospace Science and Astronautics division, as far as I know, there is space talent development and Exchange Center, as for Aerospace technology and aerospace science workers of the employee's account is not in the Space Talent Development Exchange Center, I do not know, the space of comrades who want to leave, please ask yourself clearly.
It is the same as Mampar, the hukou and archives, can not be separated, must be deposited at the same time, if you move in the future, is also the account and file to move away;
Like Mampar, a child cannot follow a settled life after birth. If you move to it, and the child wants to settle down, you can only buy a house.
Like Mampar, it is also claiming that it cannot guarantee the continuity of the business, and that it will not be stopped at any time. She told me the reason is that it is not only affected by the policy, it also has quota restrictions, I do not quite understand, she cited as an example, if they have 50 places, if the 50 people to store, then the full, and then come, not entertained, unless someone moved out, and empty places. And, she says, the policy is tightening more and more. And she said that the quota, not every year there are N, but a total of only N, if this year to run out of these n, then will not have, unless someone moved out to make an empty position.
The advantage of Bimampar is that it charges low, much lower, it received a monthly escrow fee of 220 yuan, the first deposit, sign a year of storage contract, pay one year of custody fee, in addition to pay a deposit of 2000 yuan. After the renewal, the annual normal renewal fee. Can be stored indefinitely, will not take the initiative to drive you away. If you move away in the future, you will be refunded a deposit of $2000. If you put it in, you can do all kinds of business regardless of the policy.
When I look at Hanlsen's introduction, I realized that, it is the same as I think, but also with the Talent Center Partnership, its partner is China International Talent Development Center. However, its partners do not accept personal deposit accounts and archives of the business. In this way, it is entirely possible that every "talent centre" is eating government food, while at the same time creating a human resources company behind it to make money. I think we should be thankful for the presence of these cattle companies. |
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