Cloud World Congress sub-Forum II topic one: Cloud • Big Data

Tian Yun Technology Vice President Reitao: Good afternoon! Back to the meeting, this afternoon is a more detailed problem, in the morning there are some planning between the Silicon Valley elite and the local elites, there are many challenges to the problem, the local elite, for the traditional big Enterprises, Oracle, Cisco's big enterprises, some people heard, some people may come, did not hear some voices. Today there is a better opportunity for everyone to express their views. The main topic today is the correlation between cloud computing and big data. And we also see cloud computing from the Amazon era of the internet came, took a lot of resources to lease the optimization of the model, while, the emergence of big data, so that cloud computing as a tool to solve the problem of large data, the two are very coupled. This afternoon we will discuss these two issues in one after another. I invite the corresponding guests, from the different end, one end is the manufacturer to come over the representative, the other end, is the user representatives, telecommunications, finance, the Internet, the adoption of cloud computing phase, the different stages of three users, respectively, the honor of inviting guests here to enter. Taikang Life Insurance Co., Ltd. CIO Liu, second hand system, founder and chief technology Officer COO Wu Minghui, graduated from Beijing University, and then from the operator's customer representatives, due to traffic factors, he may be late.

After that, I asked ESG General manager and senior analyst Wang Cong, this side just saw the user side, here are some representatives of the manufacturers, Oracle Global vice President Sishing, he is a master of engineering in Canada, is also the Beijing University Guanghua School of Management Emba, for online e-commerce-type innovation. Cisco Greater China Vice President Shusung. It was joined by Cisco in 1982 and has been headquartered in the United States as one of the founders of the mobile Wireless business department. Trend Technology CDO Oscar, Asia Pacific Research and Development executive vice President, is responsible for research and development management trend technology enterprise content security strategy. Again, the Director of technology and professional services, He Yinghua, of NetApp Greater China, has not yet arrived because of the traffic reasons. The next one is extreme, general manager of China Li Yu. Responsible for China's overall market strategy and business, graduated from Tsinghua, has more than 15 years of work experience, from the network of manufacturers, has a very strong impact. The following is the VMware Technical director Zhang Zhenlen. The firm's circle was small, and they shook hands and did not greet customers.

Here is a friend of the system COO Zhang Yi, senior IT experts, responsible for the company's current day-to-day operations, leading the market-oriented product work. Today we can see that there are so many people in our forum that the elites are gathered together, today there are two more strong camps of dialogue, we want to see what needs, because the cloud goes to the forefront of the entire cloud computing in the landing process, cloud technology as a system integration, our cloud base, Cloud Valley the entire product, including friends of products and functions, Sky Cloud Technology In this process, we hope to be able to set up, can not say that I was the scene of the talent show, hope that the manufacturer of the corresponding advanced technology and technology, and users need to clear the requirements of the landing, a good combination of clouds of thought collision, to find the real point of agreement, too many people speak, foggy, difficult to see. Especially the financial industry, we look at the cloud is more foggy. Different voices have, today's right to speak to our customers, our customers will mention their ideas, we have a total of two themes, cloud base is like this.

First, talk about cloud computing, see the Amazon model, is the resource rental, it rationalization, how to apply IT resources reasonably, more agile, faster deployment point of view. Because there are a lot of system architecture vendors here. The second part of the topic, we look again, here is to do big data, have to do the application, there are local enterprises, there is a global enterprise, the second topic is it innovation. As we can see, cloud computing as a tool to solve it rationalization, but also bring disruptive innovation, with better tools to solve larger problems. We would like to discuss them separately in two parts. The first link, the microphone to our client side, Taikang Life, is the representative of our financial, financial action is very slow, may have more than 20 years of history, can read Cobe (transliteration) Few people, from the era of Cobe, how to see cloud computing, how to think Cloud landing, what needs, from your perspective, Need to be solved by cloud, we propose a demand like this.

Taikang Life Insurance Company CIO Liu: I am honored to be able to present my own ideas on behalf of the financial industry. Taikang life, from the scale also represents the entire industry, I have some personal experience, I hope that experts to give guidance. I love and hate the one who sits on the other side of the factory. In other words, I joined Taikang in May and have not worked in the mainland before. When I came back, I was surprised by the heat of the cloud, and I also contacted a lot of new concepts. Give me a feeling, may be every manufacturer to talk about is like this, now the cloud seems to become a fashion, is doing things and it must mention cloud, but when I landed one thing, or encountered a lot of specific suffering. For example, Taikang Life is now planning its own data center, so to speak. We're thinking about building a new datacenter with the cloud architecture.

However, when you talk to the manufacturer specifically, the vendor will give you n solutions, but the majority of the techniques are understood when each scenario is heard. is to give me a feeling, sometimes the cloud becomes a marketing term, for the market one way. I'm on specific issues. For example, when building a cloud, data center, if two data centers can double live, is the direction we pursue. Actually landing to specific technology, including the database of the dual-live mechanism, is very basic technical elements, I think, still in the stage of exploration, love and hate. Indeed, the cloud gives many techniques for developing future trends. But a lot of beautiful term words, misled my leadership, finally, is to do things must be less than the cost of the original, as if the general understanding of the cloud.

Therefore, the Internet with the cloud is a natural choice, a lot of cloud technology is from the Internet technology bred out. But if the cloud really becomes an industry, it must eventually fall to specific aspects, even the more ancient industries, will use the cloud technology. How do you really benefit from cloud technology? This is the future of the cloud across the industry, or the entire field of challenges. If it is limited to the Internet, it is not possible for us to do so because we are faced with a great deal of pressure on our daily business, and we are not allowed to make any mistakes, and the specific needs of the data are very accurate, with the different requirements of the Internet. How can manufacturers make it easier for us to use solutions for these industries. Including a variety of management-related measures. I am from my industry, especially the insurance is very conservative industry, for the adoption of new technologies is a very cautious industry, how can we be able to earlier, or more real experience of the advantages of the cloud, or the benefits, this is my position on the advanced manufacturers to put forward the expectations or desire.

Tian Yun Technology Vice President Reitao: We heard a lot of specific needs, but if we look at these ways as a market, these manufacturers did not capture your needs, Liu always mentioned the dual-live data center, network, there are databases, data consistency, transmission and many other corresponding problems. Here are the data No.1 manufacturers, a moment will have the corresponding answer, you can write on the title board, a moment to make an overview. The second is the Internet. Morning to hear Baidu Chen always mentioned, how to view the evolution of the cloud, the Internet is the first to do their own, solve some of the previously unresolved problems, are to take their own technology in the accumulation.

Then, as the technology matures, it is possible that the enterprise will be packaged into a business tool that can be used in maturity to serve more industry users. So, we want to look at the Internet, in the field of cloud computing, and its own demand for cloud technology, is not that today in the Amazon technology to solve existing problems, do not use the structure of the manufacturer, you continue to develop, whether there are opportunities and opportunities, there are opportunities for cooperation, Please Wu always share his thoughts with you.

Second hand system, founder and chief Technical Officer COO Wu Minghui: Thank you, Moderator, I would like to first introduce the situation of our company, here may not be particularly knowledgeable about our company, I came from the second hand, our company is actually a start-up, we have been established until now is five years, tomorrow is our five anniversary. I started this company when I was in Beijing University. Our company is positioned to become an advertising technology company, is to China's digital advertising companies, including internet advertising, and mobile phone advertising, as well as the future of digital television advertising, to such media, research and development of some services. For example, advertising hair system, advertising management system, ad optimization system, and even the ad evaluation system behind, in fact, these systems are running on a very large number of platforms, or a very large user base. A lot of data is generated every day, that is, big.

Our company with the general Internet companies, starting from the birth, there is a very big difference. The vast majority of Internet enterprises, the first day of birth, is from a user developed, the establishment of a website, the expansion of Facebook well-known sites, are from the first user, the second user gradually accumulated. Our company is not the same, we have not done any of their own media, we from the first day of establishment, we put the entire system on a very large site, such as Sina, NetEase, MSN, to help customers provide advertising optimization services. The first day there is a huge amount of data and requests for the challenge, at that time the big problem is that there are not too many low-cost market, can handle such requests and challenges of the system. At the same time, we do not have the money ourselves, we can not spend a lot of money to solve these problems. In fact, it is to put such a great challenge to our internet companies. We really can't afford to pay for Oracle and Cisco switches. At the beginning of our business, it was two servers that could solve the problem of 100 other servers. In fact, this is the beginning of many problems.

As we continue to accumulate, we are a cloud computing customer, but our team, 70% to 80% are engineers, we are also developing our own products to deal with such problems. After a period of time, we will find ourselves dealing with problems, not so professional. While we are dealing with our advertising-related cloud computing problems, we are experts. But in fact there are public problems in the whole industry, we do not need to solve ourselves. We wait until the enterprise development today, although not very big, than the other companies here are much smaller, we now only have more than 100 people. But many of these problems have become universal. At this time hope through their original research and development of cloud computing, infrastructure construction, their own software development, relatively excessive to a more professional cloud computing technology development company phase.

In fact, one of the questions we now very much want to communicate with our vendors here is that how can we better promote the development of start-up companies, from the beginning only two servers, five server requirements, to gradually become 100 people, 200 people, or even 1000 people's development process, how to better help him, In addition to providing hardware, more middleware, operational support, to the start-up of enterprises, rather than only to provide Taikang life financial large enterprises, this is our special concern. Thank you!

Tian Yun Technology Vice President Reitao: This is two issues, very targeted and antagonistic. This antagonism is also a look at how we have a smooth process of evolution from an initial small company that has a technology. From Taikang's point of view, is a Big Mac volume, how to play back to the current cloud computing model, today Telecom users have not arrived, we first asked ESG analysts, can on demand side, we two users talk about the problem is very specific and antagonistic. More generally, there are no corresponding figures, or reports, that we can share with our colleagues in this room for the use of our resources to build a large system.

ESG General Manager and senior analyst Wang Cong: The first thing to say is that two of us here represent a phenomenon, we feel that cloud computing in China is not wrong, is the cloud computing cheap, we do not feel. How does cloud computing itself compare? We know that in TCO, hardware and software procurement is almost 30% to 35% of the space. The rest of the entire operation and management is 60% to 70%. So if you take the cloud computing and hardware, software procurement cost comparison, this is completely dislocation.

The second, Mr. Liu said, if in some industries, cloud computing is not to say that the cloud, all under the cloud, the middle of the majority of the case is a mixed state. It is possible that part of the business is in the physical data center, partly in the private cloud, partly on the public cloud, which is, in some ways, a supplement rather than an alternative to some industries, most typically financial and retail. It's hard to get the data center turned off, and all the data is on the cloud. The chief job of the CIO is risk, and the amount of money saved is disproportionately proportional to the risk loss that is incurred in financial terms.

Third, the market to the cloud as a packaging, this packaging for the market to form a positive cycle has a lot of negative effects. Because packaging to everyone is foggy, no one is the world, the middle of the essence of the problem. ESG is a global analytics company that is doing research on data centers and looking back, we have some data. We sit here, two days ago to do a salon, I said, we sit here we are it colleagues, we want to do is really able to present value to customers, such a time, all parties will benefit, the story is not clear, will not benefit. Are there any statistical data? With a few statistics, let me first say a global statistic.

We have recently done cloud computing statistics, Cloud has Amazon, we are positioning as the public cloud platform, private cloud, or different, VMware here, we are talking about the private cloud and the other part of the mixed cloud. What the previous two gentlemen talked about, the way we're going now, more of the public cloud. I think, in the global data, you can see as a public cloud, the CIO has a lot of tasks, the first problem to be solved is risk. This story is not clear to us, it is the first to make sure that users ' rights and interests in cloud computing are truly guaranteed. Second, there is no real value in this case, it is no use to say the flowers, in China, may be mixed cloud and private cloud acquisition strength will be greater. But in the global market, North American SMEs on the public cloud is a very common phenomenon.

So, we do a statistical report, that is, with the statistics of hundreds of companies, we will share the actual results of the research. Almost 80% of CIOs say that in the next five years, the public cloud services will gradually be factored into the strategic focus of the entire IT strategy. This is a trend. In China's market, we are called hybrid cloud, industry cloud, has a good strong growth trend.

Tian Yun Technology Vice President Reitao: Thank you!

(Responsible editor: Duqing first)