Shanghai transfer of household registration rules experts say you can't expect too much

BCC Beijing June 18 News According to the Voice of China, "news," 7:20 report, after four months of waiting, Shanghai yesterday announced the introduction of the residence permit in February this year, the implementation of the practice of household registration scheme, which means that the Shanghai residence permit to the real operation of the household register into the stage,　　All eligible residence permit holders can now apply for Shanghai household registration.　　Focusing on the implementation rules of the implementation rules in accordance with the relevant provisions of the trial measures, from the bidding conditions, incentive conditions, the application of the proposed, the family migrant, waiting for the nine aspects of further clear and detailed, China's voice wired in Shanghai reporter Yang understand the details--refinement One: time--holding residence permit "cumulative" 7 years Voice of China: Yang Hello, we note that this February, Shanghai's "trial measures" for residence permits can be transferred to the hukou set five threshold, including stable living and employment, participation in social security, legal tax, ability level, integrity records, these five thresholds in the past four months has sparked some controversy, then, the implementation of the rules and the "　　What is the change in these barriers compared to the pilot scheme? Journalist: Well, the implementation rules make some fine-tuning of the three thresholds.　　One is "The possession of Shanghai City residence permit" 7 years "has become a cumulative 7 years." Reporter: The second is "the certificate period to participate in the city of urban Social security over 7 years", into a normal payment of 7 years, the normal payment refers to: The method before the trial according to the regulations to participate in the small town of social insurance, can be converted and paid for the difference of social insurance for urban workers, Can determine the urban workers social insurance payment years.　　However, the certificate should not pay the normal payment, but pay the social insurance fee, not as the basis for normal payment of social insurance fee years. Refinement two: The threshold--two "100" Reporter: The third is a lot of foreign companies and private enterprises concern, the rules of the title this threshold transformation into two 100, that is, the last three consecutive years, the average annual tax amount of more than 1 million yuan,　　Or the recent 3 consecutive years, the average annual employment of the city's staff of 100 people and above the entrepreneurial talent, so the application of the Shanghai permanent residence account can not be subject to professional and technical positions or professional qualification level restrictions. Refinement three: processing-Unit is responsible for the voice of China: So, have a residence permit specific to how to apply for the account?　　Is it OK for you to handle it yourself? Reporter: No, all need units to handle, there are two kinds of cases in which the residence permit is transferred to the household registration, one is equivalent to the official employee, one is the employment through the talent dispatch or the service dispatch, the first situation is the unit is responsible for handling the card holders, the second situation is the dispatch unit responsible for handling,　　The actual employing unit provides the corresponding proof, the employing unit and the dispatch unit cannot entrust any intermediary organization or other unit, individual agent to declare. Refinement IV: Fairness--as far as possible through procedures to ensure the voice of China: Some people may be a little worried, is not likely to appear in the queue and so on to askProblem？ Reporter: Regarding the fair and equitable aspect, at yesterday's press conference also had the reporter to raise this kind of question, Shanghai Municipal Bureau of Labor and Personnel Security deputy director Maodali said, to ensure that a fair is all the documents, all the relevant policies are for the whole society of personnel, are open, we can see this related content. In handling the time, we may be very concerned about whether the waiting time will be due to some of the relationship between unfair, resulting in the queue. We have just said that the applicant is through the Internet, first in the receiving agencies, that is, the county's human Resources Social Security Department of the Talent Service center to accept, after the admissibility of a first instance, is the county's human Resources Social Security Department of the first instance, this time about 15 days, and then reported to the This review process takes 30 days. According to the order of the audit, automatically generate online sequence number for queuing. The total amount of control over the year, continue to be accepted and audited, approved, and then into the next year for processing.　　Therefore, fairness and fairness can be achieved, and there will be a 15-day period of public notice in the future, hoping to be fair and impartial through these. The response of the community to active residence permit to the permanent residence of the implementation of the rules promulgated, caused widespread concern in Shanghai, Shanghai Taiwan reporter Lu Min, Lu Chunlu yesterday night to report-migrant workers: hope to become the new Shanghai residents of Shanghai residence permit to permanent residence registration after the implementation of the rules promulgated, obstetricians , the country's outstanding migrant workers, Shanghai City Sanba and New pacesetter Li Guimei immediately carefully studied.　　Most attracted her is one of the provisions of Shanghai to make a major contribution to the provincial and ministerial level and above the award, with a personal certificate, the bid may not be subject to the license and the length of the insured period limit. Li Guimei: Because I do not meet the age, because seven years have not yet, but there are some honors, is a priority, so I am also very excited, if you can turn over the register, it is really very happy.　　I will apply right away and hope to become a new Shanghainese one day early.　　Foreign employees: The details of the more humane work in foreign companies Mr Zhu is also concerned about the introduction of the rules. Mr Zhu: I am still very happy, I feel this rule is still very humane.　　And we need to travel frequently to foreign countries, I have a lot of formalities need to return to my domicile address, quite troublesome also spend time, so I really hope to be transferred to Shanghai household registration.　　Private entrepreneurs: The real embodiment of the rules do not set academic qualifications, the emphasis on the ability of private enterprises in Shanghai Guo Xiang technology company chairman Guo on the implementation of the rules "not only academic qualifications, not only the title, not only qualifications, not only the identity" features impressive. Guo: Not like the original dry pure pursuit of a degree of problem, this is better.　　This really embodies the importance of not setting a degree, but emphasizing an ability. Public suggestions: Local details need more detailed Shanghai love to build shares party secretary, vice chairman Chen Zhenhong also believe that the implementation of the rules will help companiesIndustry to recruit talent, because the application can not be directly submitted by individuals, but must be handled by employers to the relevant departments, they are already in preparation for the application of employees. However, although the implementation rules have been much more operational than the previous trial, there are still some areas of uncertainty.　　Mr. Zhu, who works in a foreign company, puts forward: The key posts can not be limited by the intermediate title, so what is the key position, I hope in the following documents can make a clearer definition. Residence permit to the household registration rules worry answer: Question: Total account, age is there a limit?　　Will the threshold continue to improve? After the promulgation of the implementation rules, what are the concerns of people holding a residence permit in Shanghai? Voice of China to the Shanghai city, a residence permit for more than 4 years of Miss Zheng's telephone-voice of China: Ms. Zheng Hello, what do you do in Shanghai?　　How long have you been working?　　Ms. Zheng: Working in a bank and working in Shanghai for 8 years.　　Voice of China: What are the effects of household registration on your work and life in Shanghai?　　Miss Zheng: The main business is to travel, go abroad procedures for handling problems, as well as future children to go to school and so on.　　Voice of China: "Holding (Shanghai City residence permit) personnel to bid for the city's permanent resident account of the implementation of the rules promulgated, you have no concern in the transfer account?" Miss Zheng: There are three main concerns: worry one: Too many people, three years later can turn? Worry two: Is there a condition of 35 years old? 7 years, but age.　　Concern three: whether the policy can continue, will not raise the threshold in the future? Answer: Unlimited age, the total amount according to the actual situation in the future will have restrictions, the threshold is not accurate response to Miss Zheng's concerns, China's voice invited the CCTV reporter Yang in Shanghai to answer-China Voice: Hello, yesterday you attended the Shanghai municipal Government's special press conference,　　Can you find the answer to Zheng's concerns from the press conference? Reporter: Well, I explain, in fact, yesterday, the deputy director of the NDRC Ye Mingzhong mentioned 3000 people, refers to the 2002 years of June 15 (Shanghai city, the temporary provisions of the residence permit is issued by the municipal government at the time of the 122th order) to the present, the cumulative number of applicants for talent class residence card is At present, from 02 to date, the certificate of time of 7 years of about 3000 people. How many of these 270,000 people left Shanghai? How many people go abroad? Shanghai Human and Social Security Bureau does not have detailed data, 3000 people, just refers to the real 7 years of people.　　We know that Shanghai really let go of the time to handle the residence permit in the second half of 2002. Reporter: Yesterday, Ye Mingzhong, deputy director of the NDRC, also highlighted the total amount of concern, he said, from the situation has been handled by the living permit, the amount of the annual increase in the number of residence permits, in recent years will not be affected by the total limit. But from the trial period of the next few years, the energy will be relatively large, at that time we will be based on the overall socio-economic development and population mobility, population growth and nationalPolicy, we will do some related volume limit requirements. Reporter: For the audience heard that the residence permit to the household registration is to 35 years old, this statement, in Shanghai City residence permit trial method of the details of this 35 years old. So, with the passage of time, residence permit to the threshold of registration will be more and more high?　　Yesterday, the Shanghai Development and Reform Commission and the Shanghai Bureau of Manpower and Social Security did not respond positively.　　China's voice invited experts to interpret Peking University Wang Xi Zinc Professor--the true meaning of the hukou reform to first peel off the welfare privileges behind the hukou Professor Wang Xi, director of the Public Participation Research and support centre, believes that Miss Zheng's concerns are justified. Wang Xi Zinc: There is a residence permit to the total amount of household registration control This is a very important policy factor, the total amount of control in the end how many quotas, conditions in the bottom line may mean that you continue to postpone. And we note that in February this year, some of the methods, some of which can be a priority to bid for the city's permanent residence account, a popular analogy, these people can jump the queue, so the total amount of control to add special circumstances, worry about the total limit of the problem does exist.　　We're not saying it's going to make adjustments, however, we know that the continuity of policy does not mean that after the formulation of policies, we must commit to a certain stability, if the policy is said to modify, to adjust, may itself also need to let the stakeholders have sufficient right to know, and should take the participation of relevant people, fully consider its interests. The reform in Shanghai is essentially a reform of the system of Hukou entry threshold: We note that Shanghai's hukou reform threshold is not low, the number of eligible people are not many, Shanghai itself also said to attract talent, then Shanghai's this kind of household registration reform in the end is what kind of reform mode?　　"This round of reform in Shanghai is not a real hukou reform that guarantees the free flow of people, but a system reform that enters the threshold of household registration," Professor Wang Xi said last night. Wang Xi Zinc: The core issue of household registration system reform should be the free movement of people, the free flow of people is not a complete set of threshold restrictions, but such a threshold limit if the restrictions on specific conditions, such as the purchase of investment or technical expertise as a factor to set the threshold, may not be in essence to ensure the free flow of personnel,　　But the selective reception personnel, therefore this kind of household registration system reform, precisely, should be the Hukou entry threshold management system reform.　　Wang Xi Zinc Professor also thinks: to achieve the real meaning of the household registration reform, so that people free flow, we must first peel off the welfare privileges behind the household registration. Wang Xi Zinc: From a fundamental logic standpoint, the reform of household registration system if people are free to flow, it is inevitable that the household registration or account of the host of many privileges and benefits, slowly to be stripped away, only in this way can we all have benefits, not because there is the account has a specific privileges or benefits. In fact, the process of reform of the household registration system is toOriginally too much concentrated in the city gradually to the countryside, to the underdeveloped areas of the process of feeding, if completed, then the Hukou household registration in fact become the identity of each citizen symbol. Therefore, the reform of the household registration system is not so much that it only focuses on the change of household registration, so the whole process is a social resource, social welfare redistribution process.　　The redistribution process should be a constant tilt towards the rural and underdeveloped regions. Household registration reform expert, Chinese People's Public Security University professor Wang Taiyuan--household registration can not become "welfare prize" voice of China: Professor Wang Hello, we know that Shanghai currently has a resident population of 19 million, of which about 6 million are not on the open register, accounting for One-third of the total population of Shanghai. To be able to be a true Shanghainese, it seems that the people who have lived and worked in Shanghai for a long time are feeling the hope.　　However, Professor Wang Xi of Peking University believes that Shanghai's practice of changing residence permit to hukou is not a real hukou reform, but a measure of household registration management, do you agree with this view? Wang Taiyuan: I think it's not about the hukou reform because what we call hukou reform actually has two meanings, if the transfer system reform, directly with the change of the hukou system to achieve the free flow of people, if it is the registration of the reform, the registration method to solve the differences in people's identities. Shanghai's approach is not the same, I think Shanghai's approach in the social field can be said to be a small reform.　　But in the household registration can not be said to be "household registration reform."　　Voice of China: Do you mean that it is a way of reform, or some aspect of reform?　　Wang Taiyuan: It is a kind of reform in the whole social management.　　Voice of China: We must first admit that it is a kind of progress, is a kind of reform? Shanghai this round of reform built through their own efforts to legally obtain the Shanghai official account of the ladder Wang Taiyuan: In the past, it is difficult to enter the Shanghai household register, in this sense, it is a reform, it finally opened a can through their own efforts to legally obtain the Shanghai official account of the ladder,　　As to the size of this ladder and whether this ladder is two concepts, Shanghai's approach is landmark. China's voice: may include three levels of meaning, one is reform, the second is that it involves the introduction of talent in the hukou registration threshold reform, the third it is not about the migration of household registration, or registration system reform. We also noticed that in the 2003, Beijing has also launched a "residence permit", also known as the "Beijing Green Card", Beijing to the holders of working residence in the children's school, buy car, start business, bid abroad, science and technology support, as well as the title review, participation in insurance and other aspects to give the public treatment,　　In order to provide more flexible, more effective life and work security for all kinds of talents to Beijing, after seeing the rules of Shanghai, many people think that Beijing and Shanghai are mega-cities, can Shanghai's practice be considered for Beijing? Wang Taiyuan: Shanghai It is in the introduction of talent, Beijing is alsoThe introduction of talent, how to introduce talent with a lot of ways, we now have a problem, all seem to solve the social problems or difficult to solve the problems are to be used to solve the account, which I am afraid should not be the way.　　The Voice of China: You can not treat the hukou as a reward for things to solve the problem?　　Wang Taiyuan: I personally think that the account as a distribution of social resources, distribution of social welfare means, which makes all social resources and social welfare bundle another thing on the above to achieve fairness, to achieve a balance in all aspects is difficult.　　China's voice: I do not know whether the account can carry such a great pressure. Wang Taiyuan: If the social resource allocation and social welfare distribution are always tied to the hukou, of course it is wrong, now again so tied to carry out will never be too good results, the allocation of social resources should not be gender, age, education level, the so-called technical title to distinguish, the same society should not yo hukou such a difference, But should be ordinary national treatment.