On different profit models of different communities

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"or nonsense" profile: In the marketing planners he is the literati "black Waves", in the literati heap he is a net worm "or nonsense", in the network of Worms he is engaged in marketing planning, "in the Rain." The sole founder of three ideas: no culture, attention to advertising, 0 barriers to marketing.

The first step: the guests introduce themselves, introduce the glorious course

Personal introduction: or nonsense, claiming to be Hu old, ranked old. Eldest brother Tao, today Angel;
Dick Leo, singing in Europe, earning euros.
Old nonsense, mix the most miserable, rely on the river to make a living to eat.
Thank you for your Sham ^_^

The second step: focus on questions, everyone to ask questions to the host, the host unified to the guests questions

1. Nonsense master in a variety of traditional industries infiltrated for many years, I asked a few logistics issues. This is a nonsense. As the logistics industry, in which areas, especially the need for the Internet. Is it information, supply and demand, or price, or whatever. As a logistics company, what are the most urgent needs?

or nonsense:

Try to get some dry goods here, don't always pull hypochondria postdoctoral papers. The grafting of the logistics industry and the Internet,
First is the information and service, followed by the logistics company's brand image. As a logistics company, scale efficiency is the key, information and customer relationship is equally important, in China, the latter is more important. Size determines service cost and price advantage. As for information, good logistics companies do not need to pull customers.

2. When holding a logistics industry site, how can the short time to impress the internet is not too much to understand the boss?

or nonsense:

To。 Because logistics companies rely more on customer relationships. As for the start-up of small companies, for small business services, with the network to impress them relatively easy. As long as accurate positioning, positioning in the information is relatively undeveloped, low delivery of customer base, the role of the Internet will be more visible, to persuade the small boss is much easier.

3. You said, "Do not put the user's score and title into the used packaging bag," Can the specific explanation? You said that the journey in this aspect of the design is too good, can you talk about the performance in those areas?

or nonsense:

The branch system of the journey is divided into the players to buy their own silver coins and consumption of the relatively limited bundle of silver coins, so effective limit the journey of the player to recharge the problem, the key consumption can only be obtained through recharge, to meet the needs of RMB players.
The bundle of silver coins can be played by the blame, reward, delivery, do the task to obtain, let not recharge the player can also play the fun, at the same time to play the yuan fodder, this is the branch operation skills.

The great thing about the journey is: the poor can play, but play everywhere depressed, if you want to be the limelight. The rich can gallop freely, satisfy the desire of being prawn, realize the ambition that cannot satisfy in real life, for example: when the King

The journey of the Division of the system is not the differentiation of other games, but also other games play the same game of subversion, this subversion not only subversion of the Shi Yuzhu wallet (immediately from 4 billion to 50 billion), and completely subvert the online games market. (Complete answer)

4. Question: How do you bind a score or title to a profit model? The difference of network community and net swims where?

or nonsense:

The network community is the word game, RPG is the animation game, from the profit operation mode to say essentially identical.
Although the community is concerned about the humanities, knowledge, practicality, RPG focus on entertainment and leisure, but, we think: in the online irrigation of the mentality, is not the vast majority of people are leisure? On the community, entertainment and leisure is always the first demand, knowledge is the second demand.

To understand this, the community's score and profit model can be solved. But now most of the community's operators do not understand: why do you want to surf the Internet. I posted a Tianya consultant to the "Tianya 50," said some of the topic.

If a community as a "word game tool" to operate, the community's profit model will present a new window, so that people open a lot of ideas. Text community to game learning, can greatly enrich the community play, at the same time to some extent to the existing Community profit model Reengineering, which I think is very meaningful and valuable.

I am planning a community-class site, more than 60 people are technical research, which introduced some of the game's profit mode, although the test, but I believe that as long as the operation of a good, can build a new profit model out. Score this kind of profit model for the community is just a lot of profit model, but he to improve the text community viscosity, can play a great help.

5. Question: Safety series products, such as rising, Kaspersky, how to build a stable community? Specifically, what is the connection mechanism, the main content and the topic? How do I get across to the Web side from the client?

or nonsense:

This question in the ants have argued, my point is: useful second, fun first, rising, Kabbah useful, but high paraplegia.

Because it crosses the premise of fun. Especially in the Internet netizens also generally impetuous today, directly from the "useful" to "community building", the foundation is insufficient.

Therefore, the website of the tool software to engage in community, not easy, also not optimistic. Unless the tool is related to entertainment.
From the client across to 2.0 of the difficulty, as much as the end of the Earth, mop tools, and even more difficult. After all, backward compatibility is easy, forward compatibility is difficult, the rising community is forward compatible. As for how to achieve, this topic or let rising boss to ask (joke), words said not clear.

6. Wine-2.3: And, like the safety of the series of products, how can be done like entertainment products so viscous? How to induce different levels of user groups? (Because the security class is different from the user group and the entertainment class, their level is too obvious, the distribution is too wide, if not to be induced, it is easy to appear some incompatible phenomenon)

or nonsense:

Security series of products, users are the only resources. No cutting-edge technology is needed to engage the community. Internet age, do not care about decentralization, in the Internet era, every point on the earth can become the center of the Earth.

As a result, user decentralization is not a reason, much less an excuse. How to use the user resources, summed up in the community it wants to engage in, or that sentence: To solve the problem of forward compatibility. This is really difficult, because now the machine and system software is not compatible with 8088, 286.

The website of tool software can only do service, and do community on the basis of service. One thing is certain: the more lively the official website tool software quality is poor, we all complain inside. Official website Extremely deserted tool software, is the real good product.
The thunderbolt should be the easiest to go forward compatible with the site, but it is still not satisfactory.

7.60 's: Question: The identity within the community is not defined clearly (economic identity, political identity), which has a huge difference in the way the game proceeds. The identity of the game can be "hard core", while the identity of the community is really virtual. What's the solution?

or nonsense:

The community is a masked ball, the game players wear costumes, the form of different and can not hide the same, in the game I can call or nonsense, in the word game is also, just in the text community, I was using words to find music, in the game is the use of weapons. No one knows if you are a dog behind the computer, this sentence applies to the game, the same applies to the community, this is the essence.

As for the emotional level, it's the same as the number of extramarital affairs and community night stands. I have the data.

8. Li Tingwei: Excuse me, mentioned earlier, entertainment first, useful second, what is the suggestion for the community operation of health knowledge? In fact, this site does not have a particularly large health community in the country, does it mean that healthy communities are more difficult to operate? How to break through?

or nonsense:

The healthy community is a sunrise industry, after all, the Internet service function is more and more strengthened. However, the largest, authoritative practical service community on the popularity may also not be too high, but its commercial value is not necessarily very poor, the future function of the community as the media today, seemingly the public, but small, but as long as the small majority of the boss, there is a bright future. The future of the media is promising.

At the same time, healthy communities can also let everyone pass boredom, entertainment is not a narrow sense of entertainment, but the broad sense of boredom.
Perhaps a healthy community, pneumonia column is not as popular as the male section, but it is not important. Male section of the gas, pneumonia column to the standard version sold to pharmaceutical companies is. No male section of the lively, pneumonia drug manufacturers also do not want to come.

Also: If you can make the healthy community enough authority, you don't have to worry about no one, because: everyone in the world is a patient, this seemingly public enough.

9. Think of the water tree: The game's audio-visual impact is the text community can not be compared. Will the user's level settings and the user's incentive system for the development of the game on the community-type site for reference?

or nonsense:

Community as long as the level and net users of actual expenditure and income linked to the community's score, grade is useful. This is a system design, according to the specific community positioning to design more reasonable. As for AV, ignore these, also have no way to tube, I walk in the street read newspaper ear of MP3 and newspaper content have no relation also.

Now the level of the community and the player's interests, rights are not linked to many, less linked to the current level of the community is deaf ears, purely for good-looking, no real value.

As for the reference, in a typical case before the difficult to say, and so have a case I think everyone will understand. I'm designing a system for a website, do not know how the technician, my original intention is: money to buy points, earn points within the station, the more grades higher, the greater the authority, the actual income of the larger, because your score to a certain amount is money, from the Web site disguised distribution. At that time, I believe that players will be desperate to earn points, collect points, because it is money!

10. Question: Do you think the business community or the leisure community is the easiest to make money? At present it seems that the business community such as 55bbs is easier to make money.

or nonsense:

There are two different modes of profit. The profit model of the website has more than 30 kinds (laughs), the different community localization depends on the different profit model.

Business community's profit model is to serve the buyers and sellers as the main access, leisure community is to let everyone spend money to buy happy.
There is no good bad profit model in the world, only the most suitable one----set (laugh).
To mention the easiest to make money, the leisure community has its limits, and the business community has no limits.
The leisure community starts fast, the business community starts slowly, the different community starts the investment to be also different. How much money, how many things.
Business community Leisure, leisure community business, it is not difficult to do this. It's just a matter of primary and secondary, completely compatible.
Alibaba community can be romantic, Tianya can also buy and sell old books, the same as the ~ ~

11. Question: Do you think that the profit model of some communities in China's internet is doing well? Please give me a few words. Introduction to several business communities worth studying

or nonsense:

When it comes to communities, there are three broad categories of Chinese-formed communities: business, leisure, and a hodgepodge. The business community really earns money by community rather than service, and I don't see anyone worth studying. Leisure Community business model development near blank, there is no good to learn, a hodgepodge is also in the exploration.

In fact, with the advent of the third generation of Internet, animation and multimedia as the core of the community will be a great way, such as: Second life.

The current E-commerce services, the community is just the equivalent of large supermarkets in the teahouse, there is its boss to make money, no it does not matter.

Leisure community bosses still believe: as long as there are people say anything, such as Tianya, bar, Mop, Tencent, etc., but these are not small sites can play.

Therefore, to play the community, or from the positioning and ideas, take the mode of innovation. As for what kind of model is good, how to eliminate the abuses of the community today, this is a major research topic.

12. Guns Dozen Eggs: The game is the user of the mouse, the community is keyboard users, how to cross this pass?

or nonsense:

The first computer is not a mouse, when the mouse, the keyboard service life greatly extended. In fact, you do not go to the mouse or keyboard, use the keyboard happier people use the keyboard, the mouse is more interesting people use the mouse.

Those in the post bar, Tianya irrigation users have been practical action to answer the question well

13.60 's: You are doing community development, is 60 people's team, these 60 people how to organize, how to division of labor?

or nonsense:

This team has nothing to do with me, but we are planning the company's customers, I am only responsible for the site and desktop products function planning.
They are invested and run by others. I don't care how they divide the work. This is a real estate business investment, health care products Master operation of the website, I just plan it.

14.ellen-Wang Weiwei: Please comment on the market prospect of the online education website. At present this kind of website gradually many, but also to the community development, the student teacher all gathers to the net, the interaction is very strong, this kind of website's marketing or the profit pattern, from the traditional text community website has what can draw lessons from and the breakthrough development

or nonsense:

Online education market prospects are good, community is the only way out.
I planned the education site is divided into three pieces: database, forum, home, teacher podium.
Use the teacher to drive parents, using parents purse to buy desktop terminals.
Use the forum to be a person, use the teacher to drive the profit model.

The website is being made, but I have a big head all day: The technician does something too much like a technician. Online education will be a big chunk of the future development of the Internet, and the profit outlook is very promising. Of course, the design of profit mechanism is not easy. There is also a certain need to cultivate the market time.

Online education market in the future may be no less than any traditional industry market, how to develop, we work together. Next year I want to get an online summer camp and try some of my own ideas.

15. Do a forum, at the beginning of the set several columns for good? How many people can the forum accumulate to achieve self rolling development?

or nonsense:

The end of the horizon is 4, today's journey is 6.
Tianya today more than 300, the journey will not give up the idea of the community outside the game.
Forum Online number of 200 people-500 people---1000 people---2000 people, completed this step, I feel good service, meet the needs of the growth of users is enough.

16. Li Tingwei: Some time ago very hot electronic magazine website, recently has transformed to the community, take Poco as an example, to the picture sharing community, excuse me, the electronic magazine website's outlet must turn to the community? Or is it the community itself? If an electronic magazine is to be a community, what models can be considered? Thank you!

or nonsense:

E-magazine is not the shape of the community, the people outside the site to get things. This is the truth. Even Qihoo this kind of bone is the website of the electronic magazine, if take off the cloak of the rascal behavior, also remaining not how much value. This is so generous, small electronic magazine is more imaginable.

e-Magazine or 1.0 mode, not so much of the 2.0 content, only the remaining when the rogue ~ ~ ~, the transformation is difficult, not turn more difficult.

15. Wine: What is the difference between the core and the value of the real-name and virtual system in Community products?

or nonsense:

Real？ The word sounds like a big head. Who's going to die, don't talk about the subject. Let my eldest brother order his men to talk. Talk about the internet in China, talk about the virtual system. The difference between the two is not the Internet, do not care about the reputation of the Internet, is the people's mentality---ideological constraints of the general public mentality. Complete.

I am in the end of the earth is the old players, to the high real name, I will not be the owner of the

16. How do you view the future of integrated portals? Where do you start when you're involved in a comprehensive portal?

or nonsense:

Integrated Portal? Matthew。 They will be better off in the future if they have the money to sharpen the spirits. Now get involved in the portal, the only way to buy a printer printing money, and then go to buy Sina ~ ~ ~ (finished)

17. Male Moth to fire: What's the difference between an electronic magazine and a traditional magazine? Can the web fulfill the interaction of Electronic magazine readers and magazine writers and magazines, and what mechanisms are needed for such interaction?

or nonsense:

There is no difference between electronic magazines and traditional magazines in the future, one is reading with a mobile phone, and the other is holding a book. E-magazine is more alive. Even in the future to save paper to protect the forest, we buy an ebook to the street to spend money to download this issue of the magazine is also very easy.

MOP does not engage in entertainment portal is still dead, the end of the earth does not engage in Integrated portal development will be faster. Don't play the portal. It's true. About electronic magazines, do not engage, really want to do, and Sina Blog, Tianya engage in joint ventures, as long as they are willing. But don't expect to make money on the issue, and don't expect to make money on advertising for a short time.

19. Shing is also: are ants and monsters at the same bottleneck?

or nonsense:

No. The bottleneck of ants is that the wheat field is a cultural man, the bottleneck of the monster is lack of big logic ability and imagination. There are two different kinds of internet quality.

Probably and two stationmaster's life experience, experience, the experience of the trader is related. However, the common problems of both sites are: The general trend is good, the hand is poor.

20. Finally, please give a crap to the grassroots network pointing

or nonsense:

Grassroots network? The programmer, the Net-man club with the dream. Let's play. Is playing everywhere, don't talk about fame and fortune, also don't talk about the future.

OK ... Thank you very much or the advice of the nonsense. Focus on this question.

The third step is free discussion.

or nonsense:

Just now said ant nets, I think the wheat field is a shrewd person, maybe his chest strategy we do not understand. In the Tianya play, I have been insisting that the wheat field is the best Tianya net sense of the people, probably because of the constraints, so the project progress slowly, want to evaluate ant nets, but also to see what the next crop boss play out what tricks.

1. Shing qeelee.com: What about the monster net?

or nonsense:

Monsters are bloody, passionate, and energetic. As long as we solve the big logical relationship, I think it's hard to say what the future is.

2. Smile students: or nonsense how to see the fence net?

or nonsense:

The fence is a successful opportunistic. This kind of thing is not to be asked for.

Or nonsense: said back to the end of the Earth: there can never be a second out is a, today's tianya How to develop, first read Hu Boss's report to understand the future.

3. Smile students: Tianya compared with the West Shrine, where is the difference?

or nonsense:

The West shrine is to do scattered, Tianya is to do together. One goes to success, one goes to failure.

4. Smile Sheng: The West Shrine success there?

or nonsense:

In the age of no brothels, roadside stores were popular. When the streets were full of young ladies, the roadside shops were converted into public toilets. That's a bad thing. Have you ever seen a foxhole win?

5.61bay.com: Is the Community management mechanism (rule of law) important, or moderator management operation (rule by man) more important?

or nonsense:

Do the community in China do not talk about the rule of law, it will kill the dead ~ ~

6. Internet search engine aggregation, sometimes not the whole 0?

or nonsense:

Search engines do not call the site AH. This thing is cheat Baidu Alliance use? When the tool is used, not optimistic. This thing to save the role of the site a little dead child irrigation, not much use.

7. Bluestar: Nonsense, where is the core competitiveness of ants?

or nonsense:

The core competitiveness of ants? I think it's the concept of positioning. The more general extension of things, the more rigorous connotation of the deeper, the ants do is "external", Rob is the site, as long as the pipe is good, the official son of the pan negative also hard to say.

I feel the ant-style Taijiquan, the beast is the shape of the fist. It's hard to say the future. I think the middle product of the wheat field is intended to be a more relaxed person. It was just a little bit big at the beginning and a little loose. But the basic effect is still there. Just how to develop in the future, this is to see the wheat field boss's strategy and control.

Recommended consumption is bait, as for the wheat fields want to catch what fish, probably only he knows ~ ~

8. Bluestar: I even think recommending consumption is a fake demand.

or nonsense:

Recommended consumption is small, but if bigger, it is limitless. The difficulty is: how big, how authoritative. Recommended consumption as long as bigger, it is big. All the major brands to ask you ~ ~.

Bigger, the equivalent of a big wife, the boss. Small, the equivalent of a little wife, who take you as a person ~ ~

The TV shopping is the consumption recommendation, the brand advertisement is the traditional advertisement, the different method, the different effect.

Big to have bigger capital bigger wife to have big wife's capital, but, the wife of Peron is the life of the young woman, not so became mother?

9. If you say so, parity shopping seems to be the most reliable, but why the domestic netizens seem not to be cold.

or nonsense:

Parity shopping is the servant girl of the wife, bored to pull over to kiss, usually or go to the mall. People buy things, different products have different consumption mentality. Some of the parity, some are purely to enjoy the fun of shopping malls, some only buy expensive do not buy cheap.

Parity nets to find a quasi product categories, fashion supplies can never do, real estate can not do, consumer goods can not do,
There is only durable consumer goods, only durable goods have the value of parity.

Now, the big brand price transparent unification, fast consumer goods do not care about the price difference, buy a pack of cigarettes save a dollar to let you run 5 station you go?

Bottle:

Consumer durables are consumer goods that are long-lived and can be used more often than not.
Consumer durables are more cautious in purchasing behavior and decision-making because of the low number of purchases.
The typical products of consumer durables are: household appliances, furniture, automobiles, etc.

10. Bluestar: Fashion supplies, why not do?

or nonsense:

Luxury can not be done. I drink 80 pieces of a bottle of Evian in the bar, only 12 in the supermarket, in the business super only sell 8, I will not go to the runway market to drink cloud it? I'll drink the farmer's spring

Luxury goods such as jewelry, this thing a counter on the quality of products are different, do not map cheap. I buy a jade bracelet in Yunnan, more than 50 to pick 2, online cheaper I also dare not buy, books, hard disk is the most comparable. If you buy a parallel, you can cry.

11. Xu: Nonsense, do you see the logistics station?

or nonsense:

Logistics site has a chance, large investment in output, small output, small investment play.