Sing Li Mingshun to talk about Micro blog: Do not recommend the influx of entrepreneurs

March 2 News, sing, Vice President Li Mingshun recently guest Tencent, micro-blog in China's development and other topics with Tencent netizens to exchange. Li Mingshun believes that for many entrepreneurs, Twitter myths are unlikely to be staged in China, and he advises entrepreneurs to move cautiously into the micro-blogging arena.

Denial of the construction of the station program to the micro-blog "Death"

It is reported that Sing is a well-known web site program provider, recently quietly opened the micro-BO system test access, and launched the "Kang Shengweibo CTT beta" of the construction station program.

Analysts at the time believed that, according to Sing's consistent strategy, sing launched a micro-blogging site program, very likely as a standard Web site program plug-ins. Once implemented, the standardized microblogging function will no longer have the threshold, it is likely to become a standard configuration of various types of Web sites.

"Weibo is dead," Panchin, an industry celebrity, said in a blog post. His reasoning is: with the popularization of standardized microblogging programs, users of professional micro-blogging sites will be diverted, micro-blogging will become the "amateurs" of the internet giants.

However, Li Mingshun denied that "Weibo has died", saying that the industry is too overvalued sing's ability to create. Sing to launch the site program is more to provide the basis for competition, so that it is more technically strong. "For any Web site, competition is not just a technical competition, technology is just a starting point, just a cannon." ”

Li Mingshun also stressed that sing wanted to have no competitive relationship with all internet companies, "we are working with all internet companies." ”

Encourage entrepreneurs to move cautiously into the micro-blogging field

It is reported that the success of Twitter has led to the emergence of global microblogging services, new micro-blogging products emerge. Domestic also appeared like MySpace9911, Sina Weibo, classmate net, do what net, muttering net and so on micro-blog website.

At present, some small and medium-sized Web sites have flooded into the field of micro-blogging, the well-known personal webmaster Jijun has said that if the conditions are ripe, do not rule out the possibility of launching a microblogging site.

Li Mingshun, however, advises entrepreneurs to enter the industry cautiously. Li Mingshun pointed out that China's Internet market and the United States is completely different, in the current China's internet situation, the Chinese Twitter encounter will be very fierce competition. In addition, to do micro-blogging services need to have the ability to grasp the policy and experience.

Li Mingshun That money is also a constraint on entrepreneurs into the micro-blogging industry is an important factor, although micro-blog looks very simple, but the need for marketing resources will be very large. From the current point of view, many entrepreneurs in the country do not have such conditions.

Wonderful ideas:

On the whole, micro-blogging services are mainly in line with the needs of large web sites, and there is a very important reason for this is that micro-blogging is a direct link between the Internet and mobile Internet, it is a platform of products, and the former community is only on the WWW Internet, or on the mobile phone applications.

The internet now has two schools, one is to make the product more complex, one is to make the product more and more simple. Interestingly enough, companies that have made their products simpler are growing faster.

Some navigation and advertising alliances have hung up on Sina Weibo ads, even in Google's search has been hung Sina Weibo ads, I believe that this is not a lot of entrepreneurs have the conditions, so some entrepreneurs into the field of micro-blogging may have some difficulties, I hope they enter cautiously.

Today all internet companies are community companies, basically all the Internet has a community, in this context, the Cross-border integration of everyone is very close. We see a lot of websites that are now no longer doing simple press releases, but more calls to the community of information displayed on the home page.

Micro-blogging may not be as popular as any previous program, but it can be a standard service for large web sites.

Our company provides products, more in this market to provide more basic tools, like water, electricity, coal, entrepreneurial enterprises have the product, at least have the possibility to do such a thing, but as to whether the success, but also depends on his efforts.

The following is sing, Vice President Li Mingshun interview Record:

Tencent Technology: You Tencent friends good afternoon, welcome to Tencent Technology New product interview series. Today, we invite Sing, Vice President Li Mingshun to interview, welcome your arrival.

Li Mingshun: You Tencent netizens, I am very happy to Tencent to chat with you.

Micro-Blog Build station program is a solution

Tencent Technology: We start from the sing to launch the micro-blog construction station program. Users have been very accustomed to using some micro-blog, why at this time to launch such a product? What kind of background is this based on?

Li Mingshun: Our company since its inception products are Chinese Internet site Webmaster, builders or internet companies need products, in today's micro-blogging has been a very fast development of Community products, and we are a positioning of the community companies, must be involved, or need to provide such a choice.

This product and our past community software has a big difference, this product is actually more like a solution, or a product with a service nature. Our company is positioning the product to a large number of Internet companies or large web sites.

Globally, there are only a handful of companies offering this micro-blogging service, such as Twitter, Facebook, and many large internet companies, as well as at home, and I know that Tencent is also the early company to launch micro-blogging, and then there are other portals, including Sina, Also launched a micro-blog, is now very fire, Sohu, NetEase also began to intervene in the field of micro-blog.

Of course, there are a number of third-party companies or small and medium-sized companies are providing microblogging services, but on the whole, micro-blogging services are mainly in line with the needs of large sites, and there is a very important reason is that micro-blog is the internet and mobile Internet more direct links, it is a platform for products, The previous community is only on the WWW Internet, or on the mobile phone applications.

This kind of natural technology application reality also causes this profession the threshold to have certain enhancement, for example, some of our customers want to use this product, we also want to give customers a message solution, it needs to use SMS products to do the micro-blog, or through the mobile phone to visit the micro-blog, which in the past is relatively small. Now China probably has 100多万家 community website, or webmaster, which has percent around in the use of our products.

Tencent technology: To launch such a product, in the end how much input?

Li Mingshun: From the product form, micro-blogging is a relatively simple product in community products, but there are more complex logic behind it. For example, I often go to play Sina Weibo, some time ago also play the microblog of the daily, we see a very significant thing, the previous period of time before the micro-blog visit a little more than the visit, was hung off.

What's the reason? May be the server load, or the product load may be a certain lack. Including large internet companies such as Sina, they encounter similar problems when they encounter a particularly high number of microblogging products.

In fact, many of our investment is in solving similar problems, including safety issues, product rigor and so on. I have also seen some websites launched Weibo after being attacked by some malicious programs, hanging some code overflow, or displaying a malicious attack character.

So, this investment and the Internet, like other products, is also a more important investment, at present we have a dedicated team, mainly to serve the enterprise groups, in the making of a product, also spent a great price.

Weibo needs long time to debug service costs higher

Tencent technology: In other words, the upfront investment is not the main, the following continuous service, investment and maintenance is very large?

Li Mingshun: In fact, upfront investment is also very large, including planning products, design products, including the final product to push out. Of course, for customers to say, the cost of implementation will be relatively high, the previous product is 30 seconds to install a forum for free, because we have a very simple program can do.

Now on Weibo, not so short time can be, it will take a long time to debug. For example, to achieve the Internet and mobile Internet links, the first to have the SP account number, first of all to the two to pick up, and then debugging and so on, will be more complex, service costs increased.

Tencent Technology: Now this product is the same as the previous product to provide free download it?

Li Mingshun: This product itself is not a simple software program, it must be superimposed with the service, including solutions, facing different customers have different needs.

In fact, micro-blogging today is also divided into two schools, one is Sina this micro-blog model, there is a similar to NetEase's microblog. There is a big difference between these two kinds of the former is more like a media platform, the latter is more like a personal sharing of the communication platform, which is a very important mechanism, such as Sina Weibo, more emphasis on the number of comments, the importance of what kind of people sent this message. NetEase similar to the spread of concern more, it is more concerned about the number of forwarding, which a high number of forwarding is the focus of its attention, and comments are not very important embodiment.

For customers, we as a product and service provider, may not have a special preference for this product, we will do a relatively standardized basic form of products, when the customer needs the product is what kind of time, we provide what kind of solutions.

The company that makes the product more and more simple develops more and more quickly

Tencent technology: In the introduction of this product to the current micro-BO products for research, analysis of their positioning, at that time what unexpected results?

Li Mingshun: This is learning. In fact, we spent a lot of time learning Twitter, because it is the originator of the form of micro-blogging, we have to study why so strong, or can quickly in a year or two, two or three years of time to develop tens of millions of, or even hundreds of millions of users.

I feel, micro-blog solves several more important issues, it has a characteristic is the information dissemination efficiency is higher, all its product research is studies how makes the information dissemination efficiency is higher. To give a simple example, its forwarding mechanism, we can see that there is a @ symbol, in the process of forwarding will be constantly referred to by others, such as a micro-blog even have several @, is a few people spread. With such characteristics, the dissemination of information efficiency can be well reflected.

Secondly, it is also relatively simple. For many people, before we may face a lot of complex products, he will see a lot of function keys, but in micro-blog, is a box, press ENTER on it. We discussed in the internal, there are some products have inserted the link process, we should not add a button, put the link in the button, in the dialog box to do a link to what kind of location. But we later discovered that this function is redundant, it does not reflect the simplicity of micro-blogging.

For example, we send the link here, when the user submits this information, his mouse does not need to move, if you add this function, his mouse needs to move again. I found that when the micro-blog, the mouse almost do not need to move, as long as the hair after a press return to send out, very concise.

As you know, there are two schools on the internet, one is to do more and more complex products, one is to do more and more simple products. Interestingly enough, companies that have made their products simpler are growing faster. And of course it's not the company that makes the product complex, it also achieved a good performance of the product, such as Tencent's community is very complex community, users can play a lot of applications, can change clothes, can play a lot of action, I think this is two different schools, but also achieved a new model.

Our experience in this area is still very much, we are absorbing the long family, coupled with some of their own innovation, combined with the needs of customers, to give him a relatively good service to customize, before we have done some customers, including some of the larger customers have been online, the effect can be.

Tencent technology: In other words, to provide services to customers, but also need your people to do for them?

Li Mingshun: Yes, it has to be implemented.

Tencent Technology: The previous forum can be downloaded on its own operation, but this is more difficult?

Li Mingshun: Yes, the previous forum itself can be installed after downloading, but in fact, if you do a number of customized complex services, but also need staff to provide services to him. For us, microblogging is likely to be more of a product of the latter, with more customization requirements.

Tencent Technology: We also mentioned earlier, Sina, muttering network, Twitter began to have a relatively clear user group positioning, Sina may be the concept of a platform-wide. What are the factors to be considered when making a product when the user is almost clear?

Li Mingshun: I think this may be the site of the construction of more topics to consider, in fact, we can not give them too much imagination. In China, because there is a very important difference between Chinese Internet and foreign Internet, there are many vertical websites, many regional websites and many special websites.

In the province, China has more than 30 provinces, there are more than 2000 counties and cities, in fact, every county has its own website, many have local life forms and already exist in the internet characteristics of the community, now many sites are eager to do their own special services. Our microblog may not be as popular as any previous program, but it can be a standard service for large web sites.

Want entrepreneurs to be cautious in the micro-blogging field

Tencent Technology: In the research of these micro-blogs, have seen them can do something better, or is there any problems?

Li Mingshun: In fact, each site is the most concerned about the problem is how to attract users. I see some entrepreneurs involved in the microblogging market, in fact, I have some concerns, specific names I am embarrassed to say that some friends are also good relations, they feel that Twitter has been born in the United States such a myth, but also want to be able to do in China like a Twitter site, and want to grow fast.

But in fact, China's Internet market and the United States is completely different, and secondly, in the current Chinese internet situation, want to do some kind of development, the competition is also very fierce.

Again, micro-blogging service for policy and experience is also very important, many entrepreneurs do not have. Four is in the capital aspect, although looks simple, but if wants to really do well, needs the marketing resources is also very big. Sina, for example, has done a great job of promoting micro-blogging.

They're such a big site, some navigation and advertising alliances have hung up on Sina Weibo ads, even in Google's search has been hung Sina Weibo ads, I believe that this is not a lot of entrepreneurs have the conditions, so some entrepreneurs into the field may have some difficulties, I hope they are cautious.

Tencent technology: Do you think there are many microblogging service sites?

Li Mingshun: As far as quantity is concerned, there is little more than that, compared with other community services. So I think the potential of the market space is relatively large, especially for some popular websites.

Tencent Science and technology: this is not the same as professional website, professional website has vertical forum, if the user prefers, he may register a, but for micro-blog site, users may register one or two to the end, if there will be ten or twenty micro-blog site, users how to do?

Li Mingshun: I understand this, for a netizen, his daily website, generally at most 10. In each person's 10 websites, there may be like Tencent, Baidu, Sina, such as the site, there will be almost five or six people are coincident, but the remaining four or five of these 10 is not coincident, so everyone visited the site is still different, the market is not based on our personal experience.

Second, different websites have different backgrounds, different purposes, such as some television stations, we have a number of such customers, today we see three nets integration, radio and television, telecommunications, the Internet, they hope to triple network integration, which is very important is how to integrate their own resources to do a media, micro-blog is also a kind of media, Many people want to get involved in the market.

Before the Spring Festival, we made a customer, is the Shenzhen radio and television, they did s1978.com, is a deep and deep electricity to do the website, is in doing three net fusion thing. This means that there are different site subjects, they have their own purpose to launch micro-blog, which is not what we can infer, and we just serve these customers.

Cross-border convergence in the Internet area will be very intensive

Tencent technology: What kind of changes do you think will occur in the field of micro-blogging by the end of this year? For example, will suddenly have a lot of microblogging site out? Or is there a new pattern coming out?

Li Mingshun: One of the most important features of this year is the Cross-border integration of many community forms, which is a situation throughout the Internet this year. We used to talk about websites, communities, blogs, blogs, microblogs, Twitter, and other forms.

But I think that today all internet companies are community companies, basically all the Internet has a community, in this context, the Cross-border integration of everyone is very close. We see a lot of websites that are now no longer doing simple press releases, but more calls to the community of information displayed on the home page. Why do I say cross border integration? It is not only in their own website to serve customers, and accept Third-party platform customers, so said the three-net integration is very common. If there is any new trend this year, I think that in the area of the Internet, Cross-border integration is very intensive.

Tencent technology: We have done the customer's statistics before, there is a very interesting phenomenon, with a micro-blog client website Publishing information will be very active, what do you think this information means?

Li Mingshun: This is what internet people around the world are talking about, what is the Internet doing today? Today has slowly reached the consensus that the content itself is no longer the most important thing, but the channel, or the content in what channel valuable? In particular, access to the client channel, as we said today, "channel for the King", such as the client, is a very important channel.

For example, we look at Tencent on the news, not Tencent on the news other sites do not, and why Tencent on the largest number of news browsing? Because Tencent has a very powerful client that can push these news to customers, so Tencent's news reading is very large. This principle is not only reflected on the Internet, but also in mobile internet media. We see a number of mobile phones on the Internet large clients, it affects the user's ability to read behavior is very strong.

Tencent technology: Sing to create the original product form will be to the current micro-blog to provide basic services?

Li Mingshun: If the customer needs, there will always be, and now the mainstream demand we have solved. It is more important that our main job is to do better in detail, or to do it more carefully according to the needs of our customers. As for the function of the product, it is relatively not particularly complicated, so we think the key is still in detail.

Tencent Science and Technology: in the development of the investment, and large portals dedicated to this kind of thing, the proportion of input is about how much?

Li Mingshun: This I have not done comparison, I think do products and do their own things are still different, do products, more to consider the versatility of the product, or is upgradeable, transplant, the simplest point is that the product documentation will be stronger.

There used to be a lot of customers talking about why we use our products. He spent some time after our product, the product was transplanted, and the new engineer could not see the code of the previous product, so we use a generic code, so that the engineers can see the previous code, This is also cost savings.

Tencent technology: Sing company now has more than 200 employees, research and development staff only 70%, so few people, how can we develop many products? How to arrange and distribute manpower?

Li Mingshun: I don't know how you define the number of people in the Internet company and the number of products the company has. In fact, not many people will be able to do the Internet products, or the number and product quality is not a complete equivalence.

We know that the creative Google is actually just two partners, Tencent in the early days of the founding process, there are only a few major team members, maybe Ding lei to do the portal began only one person, are from one or two people grew up, and now we see some large companies have four thousand or five thousand people, such as Baidu, claiming that there are seven thousand or eight thousand people.

But in fact its product form and it is only 70 people when the difference is not big, more people are in all over the dealer or sales team, to sell ads to customers a broad key words, or for product explanation, or service personnel, customer sites and a large number of editors, if you do product development, there is a lean team is the main, as far as I know , an Internet product company's core developers may be only forty or fifty people, dozens of people, of course, if the product involved in the operation and maintenance, technical support, the number will be more.

Sing to launch discuz! X Products

Tencent technology: Sing launched a series of products before, including community forum software, SNS platform, now launched micro-blog platform, in the company's product structure, micro-blogging products occupy what position?

Li Mingshun: Of course, these products are very important, this product is also a very important product, but I think that this product is a niche products, relative to we want to launch a more concerned about the discuz! X products, we may in the near future some of the beta, the public test in early March, such as products are mass products, such as products, perhaps more sites will be applied to. such as micro-Bo products, or relatively small public.

Relatively speaking, we are more focused on the mass products, because the number of users of mass products, there can be a lot of interesting things to be used by many people. Like our next discuz!. X products, is the community social altar and SNS, portal functions, open platform to do a very good integration, this product can be worth looking forward to, but also our more important this year a product.

Tencent technology: Before someone mentioned the concept of "wholesale", said sing in doing forum software wholesale, on the one hand is attracted a lot of small and medium-sized webmaster have such ability to do what they have always wanted to do, and also popularized some only a few sites can do things, some worry, this will not make blog, The SNS becomes the populace to affect the whole product the influence centralism, causes its homogeneity. Have you ever considered such a question?

Li Mingshun: I read the latest statistics, China has more than 30,000 websites. So many websites, every family has a dream, each site has a person or a group of people, they want to do an interesting thing, but limited to conditions, many people may be rich, many people may have time, many people have wisdom, but many people do not have the ability to technology.

We have more to do with our website than to solve their technical problems, or the ability to provide the basis, if he wants to do it differently, and others are not the same, he can do some two of custom development, if he wants to have some differences in positioning, can be considered on the operational, if you want to do better, Can attract a better team, some people, if you want to do a higher visibility, you can do some promotion.

Therefore, according to each person's condition is different, we give them this product, he applies the role the proportion also is different. Our company provides products, more in this market to provide more basic tools, like water, electricity, coal, entrepreneurial enterprises have the product, at least have the possibility to do such a thing, but as to whether the success, but also depends on his efforts.

There are some Internet products, such as SNS, we see in such areas as successful people, do other things may be successful, do not succeed people, even with the tools, it is not necessarily able to do success. Therefore, success depends on the quality of people, people have a spirit.

In today's Internet environment, we not only talk about products today, not only technology, because today's Internet environment for policy, the threshold of competition will be very concerned about, including many webmaster, in such an environment is also very difficult, they may want the current regulatory environment more lenient, They also want more people to focus on where their interests are, and a lot of people may even have complaints.

For us, we think that the environment for everyone is the same, we very much hope that in this year more self-improvement, change of consciousness to operate the Internet. In view of the so-called "wholesale" that you have just put forward, I think that this "wholesale" is just an image of the words, we are just to provide people with the basic skills.

Denial of site procedures to reduce the threshold of small passenger entry

Tencent technology: When it comes to providing tools to customers, mention that customers need these tools, on the one hand is to provide services to his own users, on the other hand, want to get a new source of revenue, and the current micro-blog does not have a clear income model, Twitter to try the most, some aspects of some people are optimistic. When you promote your products, have you ever thought about providing some opportunities for your clients to earn income?

Li Mingshun: For big websites, its business model is not for us to consider, we provide these large customers with products, more is to make it time-saving, labor-saving, more efficient, cheaper to use, so for it, its cost control, profit model is not we can control, it is only the application of your products.

For small and medium sites, we will consider its profit model is how, even if it can not provide a profit model, we also hope that it will be able to work with the Web to provide more profit. If you want to save money on small and medium websites, it is already very time-saving, it needs to make money. For micro-Blog This product, we have not thought about its profit model where, we do not have any money suggestions to provide small and medium-sized sites, and not necessarily they use this product will be able to make money.

But I think, for any one product, as long as there are users, the mode of profit is to explore the space. The business model of the Internet is already quite consistent, with advertising, gaming revenue, E-commerce, wireless revenue, membership dues, and so on, the basic business model has been more unified, such as Facebook, in the last two years, many people mention the business model of Facebook How, Can Facebook make money?

Today, I believe this is less of a challenge, and Facebook has grown to be a company that earns $ hundreds of millions of a year, with Zynga growing to more than 200 million dollars a year. And on top of that, there are apps that we didn't seem to be able to provide, such as slide for picture storage, photo display, or company birthday Cards, which had no income at all, but on top of it could advertise lucrative applications such as Zynga, Make money by advertising. So I think, as long as there are customers, profit is sooner or later things.

Tencent technology: When you launch CTT Beta, some people put forward some views, such as micro-blog has died, or was originally a few big Web site Master technology, let you all of a sudden lowered the threshold, you may have heard such a sound, how do you see these questions?

Li Mingshun: Not only heard, I have seen, if not mistaken, I was first in the Tencent technology to see this report, I was also very shocked, I think it is too overrated our strength? We may not be able to do that. We are more of a Web site to provide the basis for competition, so that it is more technically strong. But the competition of any one website is not only the technology competition, technology is only a starting point, just a vanguard cannon.

Tencent technology: Can you imagine, if most of the future sites have such services, what will be the form? How will users use these products? Like the Forum, people know that I need something on one side, and I will go to a certain forum purposefully.

Li Mingshun: In today's society, the only constant is change. One feature of our company is that we, like many internet companies, do not have more planning, but we respond quickly to change. When the market has a more interesting products to meet the needs of many sites, we will provide it out, to more sites to use, this is our original intention, but also the same positioning, and this positioning is more to consider small and medium-sized sites and most of the site.

There is good news for many small and medium websites, when you see some new patterns, or see more interesting things, you tell us, we may make it into a product, provided to everyone, so that also save everyone's development products. Some products, even if not in the way of software, for such customers, we will still give it to reduce development costs, in terms of upgrades, follow-up services to provide assurance. We have no competitive relationship with all internet companies and we work with all internet companies.

In fact, I come to Tencent, as far as I know, Tencent patted also used our products, Sina Many communities also used our products, Sohu and we also have cooperation, NetEase also used a lot of our products, in fact, we and many sites have cooperation, not only small and medium-sized sites.

Tencent technology: Over the years sing to do a lot of products, it is obvious that the response is very fast, but there may be some products and the original intention of the idea is different, quickly give up. Besides SNS, is there anything more regrettable?

Li Mingshun: SNS is not a pity, there are many people at present. About the product of the shop, we just quit, I think the current e-commerce market and webmaster is not a group of people, Webmaster is stationmaster, do e-commerce is more businessmen, the two are not unified, we would like to first serve a crowd, first for the webmaster services, so the shop for sale, they are currently operating very well, We are very optimistic about them.

If really regret, we used to have a product called Supev, is a video playback system, there are many sites through this product can be a potato, youku such a platform. Of course, unfortunately, we finally gave up the product, it is not that we do not want to do, we are found here a lot of problems, such as regulatory issues, put different videos on this site, before we think this is a technology platform, but then we found that to create a dozens of, or even hundreds of people's approval platform, Each day to approve these videos.

In addition, if some of the video is in violation of Internet law, it will involve the main operation. The cost of operation is also very high, and advertising revenue can not offset the operating costs, so you see, in today's all video sites have no revenue. In such a burning money industry, as a technical company such as ours, we would like to give up, we also have to properly deal with such a choice at that time.

Tencent Science and Technology: as a technology company, now basically most of the products are on their own research and development, has not thought of the game company, there are many products are to buy, how do you think?

Li Mingshun: We have a good development platform, our company CEO Dai very much like to study every application, every product, he likes to study which product is very good, which product runs very well, we also like to tell this information to our team with close cooperation, such as a certain studio, At home, most of the development team has a close relationship with us. For us, if we have a very good team, we also want to build a closer relationship with them, such as investment.

But now we don't have a very clear plan for what to do, I see some of the larger internet companies have done some layout in this area, like some American internet companies, they may find some better teams to outsource them.

Because the cost of development at home is lower, so they do not hesitate to buy a team to do their development, we hope that the domestic group will be more, especially such as Tencent, if the platform developed, will make more companies have greater growth, for domestic application development ecology will have a relatively large promotion.

Sing is a profitable company that welcomes investors to intervene

Tencent technology: Now Kang Sheng Chong think of the income situation in the end, can you disclose? At the capital level, will there be big moves this year?

Li Mingshun: This question asks our company CEO Dai to be better. I can only say that for our company, we are more concerned about the future of the company in the next 35, or even more than five years, what better opportunities for development, or it does what kind of better products will be more conducive to the webmaster, we will judge based on this.

Our company after several years of development, now there are more than 200 people, our team is relatively stable, we have been doing without burning money, at present we are also a profitable company, income can also welcome more external forces to join our company, of course, including in the capital and other aspects of cooperation, We are very open in this respect.

Tencent technology: Thank you very much Mr. Li Mingshun to share so many wonderful views, thank you.

Li Mingshun: Thank you.