The sound of Donghu Lake: a brief talk on the environment, entrepreneurship and investment of Wuhan Internet

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Time: 2009.7.5 14:30-16:30

Location: Donghu Lake

Participants: Mull, Liu, Yekewa, Chao Hongliang, Wang Jinsong, Mengjianbing, He Ming

Status Description:

Mull: The original "Wuhan 5G review" promoter

Liu: Original "Wuhan internet Weekly Party Taipei Road" promoter

Yekewa: Founder of "Friends Net"

Chao Hongliang: Wuhan stationmaster station stationmaster (Chinese doll)

Wang Jinsong: "Super Angel Investment Net" promoter

Mengjianbing: "UFO angel Investment NET, create friend net" promoter

He Ming (Moderator): General manager of Palm Wisdom Information Technology Co., Ltd.

The weather is a godsend. Wuhan "Voice of the East Lake" the first review of activities, in the sun began, in the thunder of the storm, in the end after the storm. As Wuhan's new generation of internet commentary activities, "The sound of the East Lake" began to sound.

First event Commentary theme: On the environment, entrepreneurship and investment of Wuhan Internet

He Ming: Our "East Lake Voice" review activities are mainly to promote the Internet and the development of the IT industry in Wuhan, in the pursuit of development, is that we have enough knowledge of themselves. It is only when you recognize yourself that you are likely to talk about development. So the first thing we have to do today is to axe ourselves. As to how the knife is open, this DAO is not sharp enough, it depends on the level of everyone here.

The Internet environment in Wuhan has been marginalized in the national territory because of many factors, the opposite of the advantage of the relatively low cost of starting a business is that it embodies less concern: the opposite of the low human cost is the lack of a professional team with a flood of junior talent and many years of experience in the industry. The opposite of low rents for office buildings is that you can't be like Beijing, Shanghai in the lunch to share a successful peer or VC valuable communication; The downside to IDC is that it's hard to find a host that can provide North-South interconnection and stabilize professional hosting services.

The topic that we comment today is a little big, is the environment of Wuhan Internet, venture, investment. As we all know, the Internet contains many aspects, and everyone here can be said to be active and elite at all levels. So we can just comment on all levels. Our comments today can be carried out in this regard.

In the beginning, I would like to ask Liu to give us a few words. Because, after all, similar to this kind of comment activity, the Liu can take the lead in Wuhan, both from the experience and the cognition of the Internet.

Liu: Just last June 21, the Optics Valley Software Park Wuhan Webmaster Conference, I talked about a theme, which is the second one. Is "talk about the need for a steady-profit project." No matter which city, or which website, do the purpose of the website, divided into two kinds: one is the public good, one is to make money. But the pure public good, belongs to the country to do. The individual does, but rarely. So the public good is not the lead of this conversation. We talk about the development of the Internet is not to talk about the public good, but talk about how to make money.

So we're going to talk about this project first, is not making money on the project. I do not know the June 21 Optics Valley Software Park Wuhan Webmaster Conference, I that topic in Wuhan is welcome, but this is placed in front of the fact. In fact, good projects are hard to find. Chao Hongliang looked for me the day before yesterday, talking about the same topic. If someone gives you 100,000 dollars, how do you do it? You just need to get a plan. Others can convince you. In fact, I think this process is already very difficult. I just from the point of view of making money, if you this project is not to make money, you are the cost of more thoughts, meaning is not particularly big.

A grassroots internet entrepreneur, or entrepreneurial team, you do this piece of positioning is not accurate, and said the project is not immediate, I think this project is not necessarily a good project. If your website earns its money from advertising, it will sooner or later dispel that idea. Unless the traffic is very large web site can rely on advertising, other sites rely on advertising, it should be more hanging. Perhaps some professional, you for example, gout, you put "gout" this site is very good, and this area of expertise you do the best, perhaps you can rely on advertising. If you can't do a very good job in a specific area, then the general advertising is not your profit model.

I want to give Wuhan's grassroots entrepreneurs or entrepreneurial team a good suggestion is to choose a good project, a steady profit of the project. The next move, only under the targeted.

To add, last June 8 in Wuchang Road party, there is a 07 began to do the first gold net, he did not two years, the site will make money. The highest income is probably a hundred thousand of per month, and of course he is supported by a strong traditional resource, but it is important to be on the side of the project positioning. Don't care about your experience and how rich, sometimes you have experience, you do not find the right direction, it is empty talk. The force hit the air. This just adds an example.

He Ming: Since talking about making money, then please Wang Jinsong from the perspective of investors for us to analyze it.

Wang Jinsong: Let me say a few personal opinions. To tell the truth, I am not very understanding of the Internet in Wuhan, but also contact with a lot of Internet webmaster, there are many in the corporate model to do the Internet. Let me analyze it from two angles. The first is from an investment site such an angle. For example, PPLive's Yao, and Dudu. In fact, in terms of the investment environment in Wuhan, not only the Internet, including the traditional industries, are very poor. You see their two, took the investment, all the headquarters moved away, is not in Wuhan, placed in other places, such as Beijing, Shanghai and so on. Just put the research and Development Department and technology department in Wuhan. When I was in contact with the Chinese laborers, it was said that Yao looked for them and hoped they could invest, but then gave up because of the copyright problem. As a result, PPLive has been invested in several rounds, already tens of millions of dollars, now ready to IPO. In fact, Wuhan is not a good project, and often because of this aspect, that aspect of the reasons, missed some good opportunities. I also believe that today or tomorrow, Wuhan will be able to do a bigger and stronger Internet projects, but Wuhan has such a vision of investors too little. Few successful cases, fewer successful investors, so caught in such a vicious circle.

Just now I did an analysis from the website that got the investment, I did not get the investment website to analyze why? recently registered on my website for the project, the approximate analysis of several names, fashion network, Wuhan Driver network, such a project to listen to the name, it will not be bigger and stronger. This is why Wuhan's small business, he himself and the outside world is not strong sense of communication. He is often from his own such a positioning, or such an area, to consider what I want to do a project, such as Wuhan, such as the network. I made money or do a good job I will change it to a certain network, and then to promote the country. But this is often difficult. Because at the beginning the localization is limited, it is impossible to be very strong. You can't attract talent, you can't attract technology, let alone money. The internet in Wuhan has his innate limitations. Then in the Government, there is no special policy support. Including this rent, tax incentives, investment. This is actually a series of problems, not simply a certain link. So this is the Wuhan Internet industry is not strong one reason, it is caused by various factors, and not only a certain aspect of the factors. So I think in fact, Wuhan's Internet if want to really bigger and stronger words, we must rely on ourselves, by ourselves to unite, to carry out the complementary resources, or called integration. Everyone 35 home together, we do a project, it is really possible to be bigger and stronger.

He Ming: You mean there are a lot of good projects in Wuhan, but they are not discovered.

Wang Jinsong: Maybe just like hao123 's xingping, he is a cat, silently doing a website like him, secretly make money, but we don't know. Because the information of each of us is asymmetrical. It is impossible for us to master all the information of the 160,000 small and medium-sized enterprises in Wuhan, and how he changes every month. Like the first gold net you just mentioned, I don't know.

Liu: As he said just now, there are still a few. For example, like Wuhan, there is a website, called Listening Network, he is specialized in listening to information. For example, if you take a bus to and from work every day, you will find it annoying to hear advertisements on the bus. If you're downloading something on your cell phone or MP3, there may be a novel, there may be storytelling, in fact, I also like to listen to storytelling, Three kingdoms ah, what I listen to, you download it down, she that site is about this kind of various storytelling, crosstalk ah, or CCTV yesterday's news , you can listen to the download on the Internet, he is listening to the information. Charging mode is very clear, download how much money can be, this is very profitable and very simple and clear mode.

Wang Jinsong: I give a practical example: I know from 06, Wuhan new dynamic Training school principals, he basically every 3 months to 6 months to call me once, that He Meng how Ah, who is what ah, they have no money for the site Ah, you recommend me, Therefore, Wuhan is still really willing to invest in the Internet investors. President of Wuhan New dynamic Training School he said he had a friend who could invest at least 5 million, and recently he might have a fancy for a project in the city of Skynet (mobile software downloads) in Wuhan, and wanted me to give him a referral.

He Ming: In fact, from the perspective of Wang Jinsong resources, investors actually exist, the project also exists, but there are many good projects have not been detected.

Wang Jinsong: Investors have a lot of money, like you just said that Ding Lei's hands with 1 billion cash, put in the bank, if he really fancy a website, to talk to him, maybe really like that hao123 to buy. Like now that Shi Yuzhu, Chen all launched the giant plan, 18 plan, all is in that kind of Angel's name, the high salary, the option, the stock right, goes to find some good corresponding industry chain project.

He Ming: So, in fact, is the problem of information channel, that if we want to let the Wuhan Internet development, we must put this information to allow it to exchange.

Liu: There is another point: I just ask a question everyone to discuss Ah, is that Wuhan has a lot of internet practitioners, it does not know the role of angel investment, you are timely, or icing on the cake. Like a lot of people looking for you, anyone might have, maybe 1000 or 10,000 items that are hard to catch in a good way, because this failure rate, many people give up the idea, this is one of the other is that you can also talk about what kind of projects you will invest, This is also to find investors in the grassroots entrepreneurs set a goal, they know what to achieve the situation, or what kind of conditions to negotiate investment.

Wang Jinsong: Let me give you another example, I prefer to talk with examples. I am now working with Sun, the vice president of Hust Emba, to run the Super Angel Investment Club, he used to be a mine and real estate, and now has almost billions of dollars, he cast two network projects, this project why can have touched him, in fact, the project they how to cheat it, I can do a second Alipay, then the Sun total cast 2 million yuan, 1.5 passed, nothing, the site has not been done, the user did not get up. Because the failure of the investment case is the majority. We all hear that successful investments are always rare, so I'm a failure case. I'm telling you the truth. Is the investor is very realistic, I cast 2 million in, I hope 3-5 years later become 20 million or even a billion, then what kind of project can impress me, is to have the imagination, for example, I do the project is Alipay, Alipay has always been a single big, right, If the industry is second or third, it is possible to go public.

Liu: Is this the kind of project you would invest in?

Wang Jinsong: Not a conceptual project. A project that is likely to break an existing business rule. For example, to achieve the top three.

He Ming: What is Mull's opinion on this?

Mull: I've been listening to you all the time. After listening to this, my point is this: the Internet is a very attractive job, always. The entrepreneurs in the Internet industry in Wuhan have never been reduced, and seem to have become more and more. Wuhan has a lot of very rich people, there are many people have the strength to do angel investment, but these people are 90% of the traditional industry to complete the original accumulation of funds, so that these people 90% are not understand the Internet, like Wang Jinsong just talked about sun always such cases. But these people, they do not understand the Internet, but are also thought that "the Internet is a very rapid accumulation of wealth in an industry." For example, Wal-Mart can be successful, it will take decades or even nearly hundred years, but Amazon may be in five years, it will take a few decades to achieve the size of Wal-Mart. These rich, powerful people they see the results of success, so they think that the internet industry is a very lucrative industry, but also generated a lot of investment interest, but they do not understand, so also caused the investment failure rate is 90%. A large number of traditional angel investors, because they do not understand the Internet, so "you say you want to do a second Alipay, they know what, you say you want to do a second Baidu, they also know what you are", but these so-called "to do the second Alipay entrepreneurs 99% will fail." So I think it's really a little mechanism, or a platform, that can help angel investors in traditional industries to analyze how an Internet project works, and gain the trust of investors, and help entrepreneurs find that information Help entrepreneurs to comment on their own projects. The lack of such an intermediary platform is an institution that entrepreneurs and investors can trust. Of course, this institution, in the area of the Internet, must be a very research institution on the Internet. This will prevent investors from investing in the water and, at the same time, will allow more investors to trust and rationally invest in the Internet. I think this is very important. Because each more investment failure case will make it harder for the next person to get the investment.

The people I know who made the Internet success in Wuhan (or the people who made some money), if they make angel investments, are very, very few first, and even if they do, they may choose some traditional industries instead of the internet industry. Because they themselves through seven or eight years or even ten years of efforts, from the Internet industry to make some money, will feel very tired, they go to do angel investment, they are likely to do the traditional industry, feel more real industry. On the other hand, I think the internet entrepreneurs in Wuhan and Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen, or Hangzhou, this comparability is not too much. I'd still like to compare them to Xiamen. In fact, the city of Xiamen and Wuhan, probably in 96, 97, their early development is similar. Whether it is the resources of IDC, or the money this piece, everybody is similar. But the population of Xiamen is only more than 1 million (Wuhan is more than 10 million today) Therefore, Xiamen's internet companies, they can not only do the local market, the environment forced them from the date of the company as they focus on the country, such as Xiamen's basic network services companies, they go to the domain name of the top agent, Then to the national development agents. And Wuhan is what, Wuhan is looking for Xiamen to take agent, and then in Wuhan to find customers local. This is the positioning, it is destined to do little in Wuhan, or doomed you to the most Congress is what kind of scale. And you positioning if into a national market, whether you are doing business market or personal market, at least for you later to provide a foundation for bigger. Of course, many people because of their own strength, experience, funds and other aspects of the problem, he has no way to do the national market. This is also a very important problem for the entrepreneurs in Wuhan.

He Ming: Speaking of entrepreneurs, Kaihua has a better say in this regard.

Yekewa: Listen to so many predecessors said entrepreneurship, talking about investment, financing, projects. I personally think that internet entrepreneurs the most important three points is: a must have vision, the second to have the courage, three to have insisted that four will spend money, many entrepreneurs will not spend money, to get all the cost lost, do not know how to spend, have lost. I think entrepreneurs want to make money, do business first, do not think about doing business, do great dreams, do the company. It is good to be a company, but you have to do business, business people in business speaking business, to profit for the purpose. If you want to do dedication, do charity, can, but this is not what you do. In the past, I did a lot of charitable things in the process of entrepreneurship, often free to give lectures, free to share, free to help a lot of people. Many people are saying that I am not right, indeed if I am standing at that point of view, I will immediately charge, I will never say free. Ma said, free is the most expensive. It is also very expensive for yourself, you take expensive things to others, you will be very poor.

This year, more than 7 million of Chinese college graduates, why so many people after graduation and more than 3 million college students can not find a job, not they cannot find a job, because the Chinese industry chain out of the question. As a small business, you need to know how your business's industrial chain structure is making money. Like I do the entrepreneurial network, I am not only to make money on a point, I want to make money on a line, I want to continue to make money. Just like talking to a bad word, is a cheat. You cheat others once, do not count the ability, continue to cheat is fierce, I am so Understanding "cheat" 2 words. Entrepreneurship is in fact related to love, love from the acquaintance to a friend to love. Love in the process of breaking up, like investment, you invest with people cooperation, cooperation has been separated, after several screening, and finally separated.

Mull: I'll talk about my opinion again. Yekewa said very well, in Wuhan, especially the Internet industry, entrepreneurship, I personally think that there are two ways the most easy to make money, the first type is to rely on nepotism, but the premise is that you must have this relationship or you can establish this relationship. To Wuhan or Hubei users of the regional management of the Internet project on the local background, resources, the degree of dependence on the relationship has actually been raised to a lot of entrepreneurs can not ignore the level, this gap is not the technology or the market master could easily cross. Many grassroots entrepreneurs run such projects, the main reason is often their local background, resources, relationship between the crony is not in place or as strong as competitors. Green Dam came out, we should all understand that "the profit model of officialdom and grassroots entrepreneurs in the mind can only be divided." The second direction is what, that is, such as servers, rogue software, traffic and so on, such as the operation of the dimension, this piece is not much to talk about. The above two kinds of direction is to do the internet in Wuhan, the most easy to make money, and then in these two directions outside the middle of this direction, a lot of ideal, very enthusiastic, and then toward what they think is the right direction, through their own efforts to do slowly, this direction is very difficult, the failure rate is very high.

So I think we should do two things, the first thing is that we go to prevent more people can not succeed at all, to prevent them from starting a business immediately, suggest that they go to work and accumulate resources to wait for the time to mature. The second thing is that we are going to find and support some really good initial projects that have real development potential, although this project must be very few, but as long as there is, we will try to support such a project, so that he can have a bigger potential. We do the first thing, will go to persuade a lot of college students want to start a business, which 100 of the 99.5 will fail, the loss may be the family's hard-earned money, or a friend's hard-earned money, you will bring home or friends of the economic burden, will also bring a lot of burden on themselves. Come back a few years later and think, what if you went to work for the first few years? You can accumulate your own contacts, funds, resources, at least you will not bring home financial burden. Waiting for a better time to start a business may be better. Oh, maybe my point of view there are some alternative.

Liu: Mull's idea is interesting, combined with what you mentioned first. I think some angel investment in some projects are really blind, I think it is necessary to have such as "The Sound of East Lake" a platform, so that the traditional industry investment people can listen to our side of the comments. For example, just now Wang Jinsong said "the second Alipay." Who's the second Alipay, you know? At least it's the tenpay of QQ, isn't it? It's all in the front, how could you possibly make a second?

Wang Jinsong: But a lot of investors he only know Alipay, and do not know what tenpay ah and so on.

Liu: So, I mean that this kind of situation should be tried to eliminate. Because of this failure, perhaps this angel investor will not be able to invest in Internet projects. This is a.

2nd, I'm not really interested in what I do first and third. If that's what I'm looking for, it's not the first thing the entrepreneur is interested in, but how big a market you'll have when you do it.

If you say an Internet station, I'm here to liken it to an umbrella, my umbrella sales, because I have my special features, such as my umbrella it is not easy to fall, there are several special functions, but also in the bicycle and so on, other umbrellas can not be replaced, an umbrella profit is 35 yuan, but if said in the country, Promotion of this umbrella, this umbrella market is very good, then the market potential of the umbrella, I believe, if the project into the Internet project, and others want to invest in the Internet, it is possible to enter. Not that I have to do imaging Alipay this one, or I this is the second QQ in the country, he this first second is not very meaningful. I think our platform will be available for this angel investor. That's what we shouldn't talk about. The first and second. To talk about this thing, how he really can make money. And it can be analyzed.

Another example: I developed a software, this software can solve this problem, allow your computer to be able to help you when the automatic boot, you go to work in the morning you do not have to boot slowly, when he can do, when you get off work at noon, his automatic ringtone, your company This piece can be heard. Or at noon, when put some light music, all automatic, do not need you to set up, or you have a meeting today to attend, he automatically play out or have a file opened himself. If this is the software, I can say that almost all people who use computers are helpful, not the same level of help, I think this analysis of the market, let others invest, the possibility of a relatively large investment, after an assessment before they can pass.

If you're investing in any project, that people say a concept, said the ideal is very large, but in fact impossible to achieve, for example, I just said the software, developed out of the impossible, and everyone used the method is not the same, which may be possible, may not be possible, this is just a description of me.

Mull: is a very simple, able to meet the needs of the user a certain aspect of this product.

Liu: Well, but also to be able to achieve ah, just like that second Alipay can not be achieved.

Yekewa: Investors are not only a person to invest money, he voted after a lot of people with him to vote, because he can have trends, not too big risk he is willing to vote.

Liu: My understanding of success may not be the same for success. You say: "I think the success is to make money, you make a lot of money is made, this is a."

The second, is not you to get venture capital or angel investment for the purpose, this is only one of the process of entrepreneurship, is a supplement to me.

Liu: Our platform is a fair judgment, not a preference. I feel this way, I don't know what Mull is looking at.

Wang Jinsong: Let me get another word. Is March we invited a VC's boss to talk about investment. He said a word, I am here to share with you. There is a big difference between the focus of the entrepreneur and the investor. Entrepreneurs tend to focus on the entrepreneurial process, and investors focus on results. As Liu mentioned earlier, this is a very good thing, this thing will not have any impact on people's lives. But investors are concerned about how you want me to be 2 million and how you can convince me that 2 million can turn into 20 million or even billions in 3-5 years. This is a very obvious difference.

Liu: You haven't fully understood what I mean. Take just that software as an example, I said I this software can bring to the computer what effect, if I am as an entrepreneur, I will tell the investor to describe this market situation, the user quantity probably how many, the approximate sales strategy is what kind of. I said this project is the Internet already exists project, and I have seen such a project, why, it can solve so many people's problems, perhaps this hundreds of millions of of the computer users or Internet users will not be needed, which as long as there are 1% of people need, there are 1 million people need, this amount is not big, So the 1 million people, if the software it can buy more than 100 dollars, this is still very impressive, only through the internet to sell the way to sell some, not to mention can be sold in some other way.

Wang Jinsong: In fact, as investors, we are very disgusted with such a metaphor. It's like saying something to 1.6 billion people. There are 1% of people, a person every month in my this spend 1 yuan, can earn 16,000,001 kind. Because the most realistic analogy, if I am an investor, to listen to you talk about that project, hear your software how to set up, that 8 o ' 9 o'clock, how, he is very annoying. Because, like this more than 40-year-old investor, he can't even send a text message, you said that if you want him to use a mobile phone to set something, he is annoying to death.

Mull: What Liu is saying is just an example. What he means is to do a very simple product that can meet the needs of the user on one hand.

Wang Jinsong: I'm going to cite this example as the second Alipay example, where investors have a big question mark on your project before they see a successful case.

Mull: So the internet entrepreneurs, in addition to making it clear to investors, is "I want to do a second Alipay," but also to say one thing is "why I can do a second Alipay." This is important.

Wang Jinsong: Well, it's more important than what you describe as a single thing.

Mull: For example, if an investor sits here, anyone can come and say "I'm going to make a second payment treasure". But why do you do it? I believe what you are going to say. 2nd is hard.

He Ming: There are two more people here. Just now Kaihua said you start a business later. But there are actually people here later than you. You're actually on your way to entrepreneurship. We still have 2 people who have just started to start a business in the Internet have not spoken yet, let's listen to these two first.

Chinese doll: For the sound of the East Lake, just at the beginning, we are talking about Wuhan Internet. I think our view should be more open. Can not be confined to Wuhan. We should have more feedback to the outside information. (There is a thunder in the window) just now said there was a thunder outside, I do not know what the moral. I rarely go to the field in Hubei, the first time is to attend the annual meeting of Beijing Webmaster. Give me feedback to the information, let me think of is in Wuhan this piece, in the Internet this piece we can not only limited to Wuhan. Why not? I was doing webmaster interviews more time, I started out in the field, in the local time is relatively small. But then I retracted my eyes. Shrink back after I found in our Wuhan, the lack of more excellent webmaster, can not say so is the lack of really get shot of the site. Wuhan Internet webmaster, his identity is not a webmaster. He may play a lot of roles, such as the boss of a company. But I was outside, they grassroots, pro-civil, feeling is a team webmaster, a backbone standing there. But in our Wuhan there are a lot of people are empty, floating feeling. This is one of my personal feelings. Last party, from the Shiyan, from Xiangfan to come from the webmaster, I feel from their perspective is now the growth of the Internet curve is the top, is the most competitive. But in fact his marginal division, the fastest growing in the long tail, is actually the bottom. Liu told me that Wuhan, including the IDC competition is too intense, you can put your energy online, below the level two cities. Because everyone is in the holding of Wuhan in doing. If the curve, first do the following market, it is also possible to do.

I want to say the 2nd is in our Hubei has a Gucheng community, is Xiangfan. Their stationmaster is a little older than me. It's called Cong. He is now on the Hanjiang net doing. His website is also a forum, in my opinion is the development of a better. That's why I said I could consider doing some of the following level two cities. When we all put our eyes on the first level city, the market was diluted by many people.

Mull: Although I am not very optimistic about the Chinese doll said to start the basic network services in Wuhan Entrepreneurial project, but I think this is the only thing you can do.

Chinese doll: In fact, I have a lot of confusion, but if I do not, I will continue to be confused. 2nd, I am from a team professional perspective. I'll give you an example of a www.xkq.com. Wuhan, is to do the Internet Café media. You all said the editor is not professional, I think we Wuhan in the professional lack of such an environment. We are a few grassroots in there, the team should be professional, professional, to make norms of things to. Internet Café New Media, now ranked second in the country, ready to go beyond the first. Their boss planning, each month IP how long, six months to do how much, is one of his goals. All of them are very professional editors and what it168,it the world over. I communicate with him, he said we grassroots webmaster many not professional, there are many teams are not professional, in fact, to build a professional team or we need to think and learn. (The roar of Thunder outside the window)

The third I want to say is that there are many old webmaster in Wuhan, but lack of communication. There are a lot of silent money. The last party went to Xiaoming is a big Wuhan www.dawuhan.com, there are 520music Rose, Wuhan Bar, Wuhan Entertainment network www.wh98.com. They are the old stationmaster, did 7, 8 years, the individual does the station, has been doing now, also insists to now. I think they have done a good job personally, but I think they have a good communication with the outside world, the last time I invited them to attend to tell the truth I was a lot of effort. The xiaoming said, I was a man who never showed up. The last time I went to the party at a strong request. I said to him, maybe you don't know our willingness to communicate. Each communication may be huaiguitai, each with its own ideas. But I think it's fair to say that most people are eager to communicate. Including today we are such a platform. I told him that maybe some time later, there will be a group of old stationmaster or individual is doing. But the future, a person, especially younger, a team of components is very critical. Each of the projects we meet afterwards is critical to the professionalism of the team and the collaborative communication. My last party was written open, opened. This is I interviewed so many stationmaster, have contacted so many people's one desire. Everyone said quite a lot at each party. But in the end you can record, there are really see the effect of the relatively few.

Each party, including a change of links and so on, if the PR value is not right, then in fact, we are not willing to do. Among the people here, I may not have any experience, but I still hope to be able to take out my heart to communicate with you. I hope to learn more about your experience. You are people who have had a lot of experience. I think in the future work of this platform will encounter a lot of problems, encounter a lot of difficulties. But I am willing to do all of my strength to do this thing. That's what I'm going to say today, and the first example is the Gucheng community, which is the local, marginal. The second is the Internet Café New media, they are a professional team, this is my future, including each project are required. You can't just watch a project, no project, no good team. Any bad project, someone might have done it. The third is that the old webmaster there, and we can use the resources that side, we should start him up, active exchanges and interaction, cooperation.

He Ming: Next we have an Internet entrepreneur, and we invite him to share it with us.

Mengjianbing: I personally feel that the Internet people are more like freedom, a relatively loose kind of life, including my personal is the same. Personal webmaster start to do the site, is an idea, and then feel that this is very enjoyable, very interesting, or he has a little creativity, and then he began to do. But he did not know that a little bit of creativity to do it well, there will be a lot of things behind. If only from the personal point of view may feel that can be done, but in fact there are many imperfect. I personally think it is better to have some like-minded people to do it. It's like a lot of people, they do the same website. This time they can build a team together. 1+1 is definitely greater than 2. For example, to do Web site, if each station IP has 10,000, if combined to do in the form of a team will have 100,000, or more.

He Ming: But do you have any consideration for such a problem, your idea is to put some people who do the same site have a combination, to make it bigger together. But if you build a team, your role in the team will overlap.

Mengjianbing: This mainly depends on the division of labor. Because I just said first of all, we have a common idea, a common hobby, a common interest as a starting point, there is room for consultation. Because do the internet industry is a burning money industry, if you want to give me a free job, it is impossible. But I will invite you I also can not afford, because I am a personal webmaster. What about this time?

Wang Jinsong: I heard there was one thing, and I don't know if it was true. That is to say in China 90% of individual stationmaster annual net income does not exceed 1000 yuan.

Liu: That's for sure. This ratio is likely to be higher.

Mengjianbing: I think a lot of personal stationmaster need certain support, suggest "East Lake Voice" Do become an IT comment (it event, Internet mode, website analysis, Wuhan Internet rank, Hubei IDC credit rank) and investment cooperation (investment docking meeting, personal stationmaster Cooperation meeting,) platform, really help Wuhan Internet entrepreneur.

Liu: In fact, this disorderly competition in the Wuhan market is also a problem. The Dragon Lane is a Changzhou regional website, and his population is about 1 million. His registered member, I last saw 440,000. There is no such a website in Wuhan. But in Wuhan if you really do such a website, and so you a little bit famous, there are 3, 40,000 members, there will be a lot of competition appears. So the cost increases, so do not do much.

Chinese dolls: In fact there is a problem: from thousands of IP to tens of thousands of is very easy. From tens of thousands of IP to hundreds of thousands of, this will have to be a process of injecting capital. There is a pattern, from the individual to the team.

He Ming: Today we talk about the same, now we can go back to talk about the voice of the East Lake, how the team should do. There are practical things we can do.

Mull: We all see a lot of people write a lot of words to the voice of East L.. Among them, I think that the words written by stupid are very real. We do not want to look forward to the sound of the East Lake must be how, we reported a very common mentality to do. For example, the first time we choose to do here in the East Lake, because this is the equivalent of one of our initial publication. So let's make it official. After that, you can be a little more casual. The venue is set by the moderator of each issue. Try to avoid spending money as much as possible. If each one of us in this room cannot come over, ask him to find someone to replace him. Because I believe that through the accumulation of practice, for example, after 1 years, 2 years, his influence will become greater. But in the early stages we don't have to expect us to do one or two. I believe there will be people to scold us, say we cheat, I believe this voice will certainly have. But we hold this kind of common heart and do what we think is right. It's OK to hold this mentality.

Yekewa: We actively to participate in, the intention to share, the intention to learn on it. I think so. There are predecessors here, there are beginners, like me, there are some ideas of prejudice, we can make some suggestions. I can cultivate again. Because I can learn experience on such a platform, maybe after a while I have a different view of things.

He Ming: I think we can do more pragmatic things besides commenting. For example, help small teams to integrate, or we help analyze some good projects and so on. I think we can do something like that.

We'll see you next time, my friends.