Tian Yun Technology Vice President Zhang Fubo: The market will determine the future of the cloud Platform

"Guide" cloud computing market is now the smoke, Amazon's hegemony is shaken, open source platform OpenStack Rise, Cloudstack is unwilling to be outdone, many platforms are eyeing, is OpenStack Asia-Pacific Technology Conference is held soon, Csdn an interview with the Sky Cloud Technology vice President Zhang Fubo, discussed the cloud platform related issues.

CSDN: Would you please introduce the products of Tian Yun Company and company?

Zhang: Tian Yun Company, personally think that the new generation of integrated wireless technology companies better, days Cloud is not a traditional technology companies, not a large number of products, no sales channels. In the era of cloud computing, this model is no longer established, as cloud computing makes it less likely to buy. Cloud computing is also an IT resource that needs customization as a power plant, which enables social planning. Cloud Technology's core competitiveness lies in cloud computing, first as a system expert, cloud can provide cloud computing services, this service includes specific solutions, provide consulting and so on. In the new growth environment of cloud computing, this requires an innovation. Second, the Sky Cloud has its own products, this product is not said to be able to market specific products. For example, when a user has some kind of demand, and the demand does not have a product on the market to meet it, the cloud can do it.

CSDN: What do you think of the existing cloud computing platform?

Zhang: I think the cloud platform on the market has its own problems, most platforms can only do a part of cloud computing, just as users need an "elephant", not just a "elephant leg." The main reason is that almost all cloud platform vendors are "color", such as Microsoft's cloud platform must support windows, support their own updates. But the current era, a single big pattern has not reappeared, theoretically, the cloud computing market will be refined, so the enterprise needs to make accurate positioning itself, is a resource provider, is the system platform provider, or service provider. Personally think, a company across three industrial chain is almost impossible, can only do a part of it, do not do the application of platform, do not do the platform you do not do resources, do not do resources to do the service. Sky Cloud does not provide resources to provide only a system platform, and the application of resources is to maintain a completely neutral attitude.

CSDN: What do you think about the standards of future cloud platforms, how to ensure interoperability between platforms, such as security and compatibility in the Data migration field?

Zhang: It is now no standard, personally feel that should still need to have a standard. Because standard things don't have the best choice technology, even choose the third good, fourth good, as long as a standard, become the best, the world's most popular thing is never the best thing, is because of simplicity, become the standard, it is popular, no standard is not popular. But on the other hand, the death of the standard will stifle creativity and kill innovation. Personally think that the resources level should do standards, such as ARM chips, AMD chips, should provide a standard for the resource layer. But for the cloud platform, it is difficult to define a standard, operating system standards are never state-defined, but the application to determine, so when the system above the application of the standard, like Microsoft's operating system standards, although Microsoft has never announced, but the world's desktops are Microsoft as the standard. In the software industry, who has a high market share, who can become a standard, this is also called the method of competition, the market will not keep up with the trend of the era of elimination, it depends on the personal perspective.

CSDN: Now that I understand the situation, AWS has become a cloud platform, and can even be said to be a default standard, because Amazon has the largest market share. If, as mentioned above, the market determines the standard. Now there is a problem, that is, other platforms, like OpenStack platform, Cloudstack platform, how to get rid of the standards of AWS confused state?

Zhang: The key to the standard is the market recognition. Mr Jobs, for example, designed an Apple computer, an independent system. Apple is letting the user conform to it, rather than adapting it to the user, and eventually Apple succeeds. If that's what we're thinking, jobs will be dead. Therefore, it is not important to talk about standards, it is important who occupy the market. What is a standard? Lu Xun said: "There is no road in the world, walking more people, it became a road, then the world has no standard, with more people, became the world standard." Therefore, manufacturers are not qualified to say that they are the standard, which is determined by the market choice.

CSDN: Now there is a topic, because the most successful open source case Linux, probably not many people more than 10 years ago, but now it has become a huge biosphere, there are dozens of different versions of Linux. That is like the cloud platform, there is no possibility of such a situation, there is an open source version, each has a unique version, but the core is the same, the global engineers, can contribute to the product of their own strength, so that the product continues to mature, constantly growing?

Zhang: Open source is just a means. The Linux thing, it can be said that Microsoft's strategic mistakes, but touched the development of Linux. If Microsoft had been able to make its operating system cheaper, Linux might not have much room to live, no doubt, that was the market choice. But the individual believes that open source can not solve all the problems. First of all, open source to expand the market awareness, especially the success of a system software, not in this system software is to develop, but the number of applications in the above, open source has the biggest advantage, that is, early development is free. But open source to transform into an ecosystem, it must become a commercial version, the so-called commercial version, but also open source code of the development, the key is the business version of Things, there will be a commercial company, to provide users with this set of code to take responsibility, which is the biggest difference.

CSDN: In your opinion, from the current domestic users, which cloud platform to use the most?

Zhang: From the whole world, in the major platforms, currently cloudstack use the most. Because its original origin is neutral, Cloud.com did not have a resource pool, then after the Citrix acquisition, but also joined the Apache community, hoping to make this project into an open source community, which we are also keen to work with Cloudstack, because the management of X86 including virtual management, this is the best platform. Cloud customers have tried a lot of cloud platform, such as Cloudstack, OpenStack, including Microsoft, no one is perfect, each has a lack. But relatively speaking, cloudstack platform is still good, although OpenStack community heat is relatively good, but as a commercial application, OpenStack has yet to develop, only its own strong research and development capabilities of the Enterprise will consider OpenStack this platform.

CSDN: What do you think of China's software market?

Zhang: The market is not to do much, but to do the best, the software market is a monopolistic market, only need one of the best software, and do not need a second. Sky clouds want to do the best, and this ecological environment must be clear, like Huawei is a full-scale attack, then its focus has problems. Personally think, in the Chinese market to develop software is difficult to succeed, hit the market must enter the U.S. market, why? China's system software, which covers only 1% to 1.5% of the world's software, is only 1.2% of the world's market, even if it eats all of China's markets. Why China can't do the operating system, do not come out of the database, because this market is too small.

(Responsible editor: Lu Guang)