Understanding the future of the Internet from the confrontation between Anderson, Zhou, Wang and Tang

November 15, 2014, the theme of "dialogue 21st century: Looking back and Shang", sponsored by Citic College, was held at the Sofitel Wanda Beijing Hotel.

Various industry masters gathered this forum, "21st Century Capital" author Thomas Pichetti, "Wired" magazine editor-in-chief, "Long Tail theory" and "free" author Anderson and other masters are also on the scene.

Among them, "Internet forum" with how the world will connect? As the theme, under the auspices of Yeepay, the CEO and co-founder of the internet Finance thousand, Tang, the founder of the Long Tail theory Anderson and the 360 chairman Zhou, the Chinese listed Companies Association president, China Mobile former chairman Wang Wei launched the century dialogue, in the fierce confrontation of thought, Outlines the Internet and the future vision of the world!

The conversation of the internet giants

The guest from left to right

Yeepay CEO and co-founder, internet finance thousand (IFC1000) Chairman-in-office Tang

Anderson, author of the former editor-in-chief of Wired magazine, the Long Tail theory, the free and the creator

Chairman of Chinese listed Companies Association, former chairman of China Mobile

360 Chairman Zhou 祎

1, guests on the "Internet future world How to connect" point of view's

Anderson：

The problem of connectivity is not just physical understanding, but many successful businesses are thinking globally, and constantly considering how to integrate talent and opportunities globally to form a pool of talent and opportunity around the world. The internet helps us realize a very important dream is to find the best talent. 20th century was about the century of the Enterprise, 21st century was about the platform of the century. 20th century is recruiting talent, 21st century is the talent community.

Wang：

First, we must find our place in this ecosystem. It is now connected to the ecosystem and is composed of various links. I always think that the main three links, one is network connectivity, is the operator's network, including WiFi network, and the second is mobile devices. Three is the most potential application service, is the app. This new value chain has been formed. Every business and even everyone has to find their own position in this value chain.

Second, innovation. The connected world just stepped out of the first step and the bigger development is still behind.

Third, information security and personal privacy protection. This is the responsibility of all the people in our industry.

Zhou：

The essence of the Internet is to connect a lot of individual nodes, the more nodes, the network effect, the value of the network and the node is not a linear relationship, not even the square relationship, but an exponential relationship, it is a fully interconnected network. Because of the change in the number of levels of efficiency, the Chinese people's popular saying is that quantitative change produced qualitative changes, the internet has caused a lot of subversion.

First, because of the wireless internet, mobile Internet after the full interconnection, the biggest change is the product enterprise and consumer relations.

When each enterprise is facing the connection today, you have to ask yourself, the one-time business model of the past with the user is very likely to not exist. Perhaps in the most important time of Internet, you have to become a service, you want to turn your product into a connection with many users and users.

Second, connecting with many business models or businesses in the world can be a huge subversion. In the past, the Internet has more information revolution, the flow speed, but with mobile phone, can let people use mobile phone not only access to information, can directly access a variety of services, directly into a variety of transactions. Logistics, service flow, money transaction flow have changed the original network inside the relationship, making a lot of intermediate state, many intermediaries do not exist, consumers can and many of the original supply of goods services directly connected.

Man-Machine interconnection is 2.0,3.0 is IoT (Internet of things, all things interconnected, today all can think of things, lights, sockets, cars, home appliances, containers, large ships and so on can become a smartphone, will become a mobile phone, look like a mobile phone, is actually a mobile phone intelligent system , 7x24 hours connected to the Internet, this will produce a new industrial revolution.

Wang talked about the challenges of network security, the challenges of personal privacy, the challenges of huge amounts of data, and we, as security companies, are thinking about how to solve the security challenges of the lot era. China computer, 400 million to 500 million units, there are about 2 billion handheld devices, they have been networked, you must think that the number is amazing enough, five years if all equipment wearable equipment, watches are online, there will be 20 billion will connect the network, they do not like people, do not sleep, 7x24 hours to pass data, The real big data will come true.

2, the guests wonderful "the" link

2.1 Weeks Hung 祎 The first to ask Chris

Zhou: (Ask Anderson)

First, with the development of intelligent hardware IoT, free theory will continue to pursue it? Will the hardware be free? Like Mr. Wang's WiFi free, will future communications be completely free?

Second, I studied 3D printing, I personally think 3D printing is a gimmick. I think IoT technology is more likely to be an opportunity to create an industrial revolution.

Anderson：

The first problem, hardware is not 0 cost, we put the hardware or software design, intellectual property. We use them to encourage more hardware creators, to create better hardware and market, to bring us opportunities. Finally we can sell the data and analyze the hardware as a service.

The second issue, about 3D printing, is not a manufacturing technology, it is a prototype manufacturing technology. 3D is a member of digital manufacturing technology, including CNC, ENC, including a variety of traditional digital manufacturing technology. 3D Printing became an activator in the industrial Revolution, let everyone better research prototype, put into the cloud mass production.

Tang：

I simply evaluate, just Anderson said that 3D printing is not a simple large-scale manufacturing, 3D printing is to combine manufacturing and the Internet, everyone can make, the traditional society inside the manufacturing is very troublesome, you need the machine, need the factory, now the entire manufacturing long tail, the virtual world also long tail, Everyone can be a manufacturer.

2.2 Zhou Hong 祎

Zhou: (ask Wang)

Others do free voice, communication, SMS, operator voice business facing hundreds of millions of of the loss of assets. King give three operators advice on how to look at this problem?

Wang：

Now that Twitter and Facebook do replace a lot of text messages, or even part of the voice, you don't see a replacement that generates more traffic than it replaces. For operators, the important thing is to transform into the main business data.

Network connectivity, mobile devices and application services, no one can take all, who figured out that eating completely impossible, also can cross the boundary completely. App stores are manufacturers that can operate across operators, and operators can do other things, as well as apps. The problem now is that operators, in addition to doing what other service providers do, must find the one that suits them best.

2.3 Wang inquires about telecom operation and Internet good products

Mr Wang: (ask Anderson)

Telecom operators do a lot of free things, such as sending a phone, which is a seemingly free. There is no limit to the use of voice, which is a free embodiment of the past. But telecom operators are very cautious, because we are now charging for more than 100 years of business. In the internet age, telecom operators operating mode, you have any ideas.

Anderson：

We have been talking about the world's data will be more and more free. The so-called free is free plus value-added services, value-added services forever charge, free is to generate value-added services revenue, basic services almost zero price, but we will have more opportunities to use such a free to create more value-added services or a premium.

My carrier T provides free data services. At this point I can upgrade to its more high-speed connection, that will pay, a base of the speed bandwidth is free, but to go up will pay more money. We are in the consumer differential pricing, we divide the consumer into measured, some people are willing to use bad service, but some people are willing to spend more money to enjoy high-quality services, consumers are very different characteristics.

Mr Wang: (Ask Zhou)

As a developer of the Internet, encounter good products but can not find a profit model how to do?

Zhou：

The Basic Law of the Internet is the user, I have always thought that all the business models in the Internet, especially to consumers, are based on a large number of users. The internet has a lot of product models, but the mode of earning money is so few, one is advertising, cross-subsidization, advertisers subsidize users, the second is value-added services, such as Tencent's Blue Diamond, Green Diamond. Third, the electric business O2O, there are enough people to sell goods in order to sell the service under the line.

Many people's understanding of the business model is always a misunderstanding, that the business model is planned in the House, in fact, all business models are not planned out, is to explore, but there is not enough users, you think of the mode, it can not think of in the room.

2.4 Anderson Fun Four questions

Tang：

China's internet is very distinctive, is the most powerful industry. 94 to now 20 years, but the market value, such as horse Cloud, the world's second internet, and Tencent hundreds of billions of dollars. You must be curious, you can ask these two questions, you want to know what force to promote China's Internet development so fast?

Anderson: (Ask Zhou)

Mr. Chow, you mentioned the Internet and wearable equipment, are you wearing it now? Why didn't you wear it?

Zhou：

I brought a couple of presents, and your wife must have loved them. We wear watches specifically for 3-7-year-olds, where parents can know where they are and what is dangerous around them, and can call their parents directly, a product that is very popular. Many mothers see this product is very excited, buy two, one to the child, one to the husband.

Anderson: (Ask Zhou)

I also have a question, the overseas Chinese Internet company, now has the bat and so on the company, which is China's first truly becomes the global internet company?

Zhou：

From now on, I think the first enterprise that wants to do globalization should be Tencent. Tencent micro-letter in the domestic success, spent a lot of time around the world to promote WeChat, with other companies in the competition.

Anderson: (ask Wang)

Millet marketing is very good, never seen such an increase, how do you think the future of millet?

Wang：

I said two.

First, 60% of the world's mobile phones are made in China, but most of them are foreign brands. I've been thinking about when I'm going to be there. A Chinese brand can be known internationally, and it is very gratifying that millet does this.

Second, all aspects of millet do a good job. But I look forward to a landmark mobile phone in China, just as the iphone did to the entire industry. My expectation is that millet or other Chinese handset makers can launch a 4G-era mobile phone.

Anderson: (ask Wang)

What's so amazing about your years of practice?

Wang：

The biggest surprise is that we know that mobile phones are going to be a big development, but we never thought everyone had a cell phone. I didn't expect mobile penetration to be so high.

2.5 Tang "Strong control field"

Tang：

Three-bit return to the subject. After the internet era is the interconnection of all things, in this context, the Internet under a new portal opportunity where? What about Zhou?

Zhou：

Next entrance I think there are three possibilities.

First, IoT, whether it is glasses, or watches, the future of mobile phones in wearable equipment will be decomposed, after the screen everywhere.

Second, the car network, Tesla took a step first, it is not battery-driven, but debris time, you have One-fourth of the time every day in the car, which is also an interface.

Third, smart home, there will be a lot of smart appliances, some people think that the unlimited router is the entrance, but not necessarily, it is just a load of traffic, the future of the family of the robot is not an entrance, we are exploring, this is also groping.

Tang：

After the advent of mobile Internet, all industries, whether traditional or modern, are facing the Internet, all industries in the Internet era faced with great challenges, the wheels will be rebuilt, the traditional industry is subversive or reborn?

Zhou：

In the area near the Internet, the Internet will be quickly overturned, but the Internet can not replace production and manufacturing. If you can understand the Internet business model, user experience, use the Internet technology to do the transformation, I think for many enterprises is a transformational opportunity. Perhaps there is a huge opportunity in the future, that is, many traditional companies and internet companies to combine. This combination creates new genes and new species.

Tang：

Anderson, you are the Internet prophet, in the next 5-10 years, what do you think the Internet will appear new trends and characteristics, what new business opportunities?

Anderson：

The Internet is a basic infrastructure, and we think the most important change is the many industries that have been subverted by the Internet. Internet more than 20 years, we just touched its fur, just started. Just now Zhou always talked about the DNA and genes of these companies, many internet companies have a deep understanding of the Internet gene, the children produced from this gene, so the next generation of children is also the internet grew up, so I believe that the Internet will change everything.

Tang：

Anderson, in the era of mobile internet or post-IoT Internet, you get information and services that you can pay for in different scenarios and terminals. In this view, the scene is more important than traffic. As small and medium-sized enterprises, can avoid those traditional by the flow of cash, grow up big Internet enterprises, and get more business model.

Anderson：

With the improvement of search technology, we can use search engines to find the goods we want. And the payment system has many opportunities to mediate, can get rid of this large integrator or large platform. Both Apple and Google have paid, and China Mobile has paid, and we can see more and more kinds of payment platforms in the future. In the post-PC era, there are many things that can get rid of Amazon or Taobao platforms.

Tang：

You are the CEO of 3D Robotics Company, the movie has robot control human, what do you think of the future internet age, the relationship between robots and people, there is no robot in turn to control the possibility of human beings?

Anderson：

This robot definition is problematic, this is not a narrow-sense robot. The robot itself is a bit misleading, as if this thing is going to replace us. The concept is misunderstood. Then there is the artificial intelligence, this is another concept, it must be able to play chess, will translate. But now we see that all of these artificial intelligence are complementary, let us be faster and more efficient.

Tang：

Wang's 09 years in the face of Tsinghua University to talk about what big companies recruit talent, gave a lot of students employment advice. Today, most of the students graduate, become the Internet practitioners, entrepreneurs, for them you as an elder have any advice?

Wang：

I don't think it's too late for anyone to start a business today. We only see the tip of the iceberg, now there are 7 billion mobile phones all over the world, but now only connect people. If extended to the Internet of things, at least one person can connect an average of 10 devices, 7 billion connections will soon become 70 billion connections. In the application, we see a good application, it is no longer possible to have a better application. We saw Nokia launch a new mobile phone in 2000 and feel that there is no longer any better phone coming out, and it turns out that the show is still behind us. I want to tell you most, the opportunity is very much, as long as you create.

2.6 What did the Internet not change?

Tang：

I asked the last question. Now that the advent of mobile Internet, the entire internet world is developing too fast, everyone is very confused, Zhou look very understand, but very confused, Mr Wang, Anderson and I are very confused, confused, what is not confused, the Internet has changed so many things, change the interaction between people, change our views on mobile phones, television, What is the Internet that hasn't changed?

Wang：

I extend it, not some kind of object change, but entrepreneurial spirit of enterprise or person. One thing that will never change is that concentration can succeed. No matter what happens to the external science and technology, whether in the industrial age or the information age, the dedicated person will succeed.

Anderson：

I think it is important not to change the relationship between parents and children.

Zhou：

The internet can not be changed is someone to do the system must have loopholes. With the development of science and technology, the problem of safety is not less and fewer, actually more and more. We as China's largest Internet security company, we can do the payment, the electricity business, and we have to consider how to use our technology to make the internet a little safer. Today in the Internet age, everyone has no privacy, all the privacy in the cloud. How to protect privacy and meet the challenges of the Internet, the security situation has never been changed.

Tang：

The forum is over, I add a word, I think two facts have not changed, one is only 24 hours a day, another is that we are people.

The internet makes us live more wonderful, the Internet let us become more complete, more worthy of a life. Thank you!

Remark: This literary talent is compiled from Sina Finance and economics, and the views and dialogues are refined.

(Responsible editor: Mengyishan)