Voice of Economic Dialogue Wu Xiaobo and liuqing: This lawsuit is meaningful

BCC network Beijing February 24 News (reporter Feng Ya) According to the Sound of economic reports, the day before (22nd), Beijing Dongcheng District People's court hearing the second trial Liuqing v. Wu Xiaobo plagiarism case. Because both sides wrote the famous economist Mr. Wu, this "battle" has been widely concerned by the community. Yesterday, both parties liuqing and Wu Xiaobo also received an exclusive interview with CCTV reporters, responding positively to the incident.　　Liuqing said that despite the Mr. Wu to testify to Wu Xiaobo, she was deeply injured, but she still has the confidence to win the case: reporters: After the trial, may be your lawyer said that outside the court can make conditional conditions, this conditional condition refers to what?　　Liuqing: I said, I am willing to accept mediation, I this door is always open, I welcome, but the premise is that he (Wu Xiaobo) to admit plagiarism, public apology.　　Journalist: Does this matter affect your life and work?　　Liuqing: I think it's pretty big, in addition to spending some time and energy to deal with this, I feel that this is my role as an activist, I am defending my intellectual property rights, in China, intellectual property rights are too indifferent, so I think this matter itself is meaningful, that is, the right to protect the matter itself.　　Reporter: After this incident, have you communicated with Mr. Wu old gentleman?　　Liuqing: No.　　Journalist: What do you think Mr. Wu might think about this? Liuqing: He supports Wu Xiaobo. He gave his testimony for him. He gave Wu Xiaobo 2 testimonies, Mr. Wu to Wu Xiaobo's letter, which was a copy, and Mr. Wu a separate one was probably called "situation statement".　　Also as a testimony, the first session, last December 3 that time was provided.　　Journalist: What do you think of Mr Wu's support?　　Liuqing: I think it is very sad, in the emotional I still very touched.　　Journalist: Did you feel sorry and even hurt? Liuqing: there is.　　Not that I am just a biography of the author, he is only a transfer of the relationship between the Lord, we have a long-term work, and in-depth contact, even the family even put the life of a contact, the result, now another biography of the author of plagiarism, he stood on that side.　　Journalist: If you have Mr. Wu's testimony, how likely are you to win this lawsuit?　　Liuqing: I am confident, because his testimony does not prove a reasonable source of Wu Xiaobo content. Journalist: Do you have any objections to the Mr. Wu old man's testimony?　　Or is there any doubt about it? Liuqing: There are objections. Because Wu old writing is probably, for example Liuqing interview, I told her my experience ah, point of view Ah, Wu Xiaobo is also so ... So some, he might write: "I told Wu Xiaobo the following points," and then 12345678 ... or write: "I've talked about Wu Xiaobo and liuqing, and then 12345 ... So, first of all, I'd like to say that, even if they did, why is Wu Xiaobo's statement exactly the same as mine? Stories who can speak butIt cannot be that after about 10 years, the two statements are identical. In addition, Wu Lao's testimony indicates which with Wu Xiaobo and liuqing are speaking outdated, he is in such a situation to do: because in my accusation of the Wu Xiaobo of the dozens of plagiarism, he must have every place to find his source, then some sources he can not find, really is not, he let Wu old to give him this, I told them about it. But I found, in his testimony, that he had not actually spoken to me, that I had dug it out, and that Wu Xiaobo had moved from me. Miss Wu must not remember which he did not actually say, which I did. But in this case, Wu old for him to do such a card, so, this is not true things.　　So I have confidence in winning this lawsuit. Liuqing insists that mediation will not be accepted unless Wu Xiaobo acknowledges plagiarism and publicly apologizes. In this regard, Wu Xiaobo in an interview with reporters Feng Ya also made clear that he respected liuqing intellectual property rights action, but he does not exist plagiarism, and for him, this lawsuit is a experience: reporters: After the trial, the plaintiff said that the court can be a conditional mediation. I asked liuqing what the conditional mediation means. ' You have to admit plagiarism first, and of course there are other conditions, ' she said.　　Accept it? Wu Xiaobo: No, because what he told me was plagiarism.　　Out-of-court settlement how possible, then the lawsuit is over.　　Journalist: Is it impossible for you to accept his "conditional mediation"?　　Wu Xiaobo: You can accept conciliation, but the premise is that there is absolutely no question of plagiarism and plagiarism.　　Journalist: What kind of mediation would you like to be, such as money or other ways? Wu Xiaobo: I don't know what the way it is, the lawyers on both sides are still talking.　　But there is no plagiarism or plagiarism, at least from my point of view, the evidence we present to the Court is sufficient to prove that there is no plagiarism or plagiarism. Reporter: Things have developed to now, many other people also participate in it, some support you, some support liuqing.　　For example, "fight against the fighter" ark, clearly said that even write articles to support liuqing, what do you think of this? Wu Xiaobo: The first, on the biography, its intellectual property issues, writing problems, in fact, in China is a very new topic. After this lawsuit, it is also a chance for me to learn.　　Especially for a year, since the indictment, I have been serious in responding, this is the 1th. 2nd, the community has aroused widespread concern, I also saw the positive, negative. So far, I have not spoken, have not been interviewed by the media. Then it turned into a lawsuit. Later, lawyers and I also said that you and liuqing are celebrities, since access to the judicial process, then can not respect the law, not to fight again. I think he spoke very reasonable, since the lawsuit, the serious lawsuit, so a year I did not speak any words.　　This is the 2nd. 3rd, I think this lawsuit actually has certain significance, because like our generation of people。 I was a financial writer 20 years ago. It belongs to nonfiction writing, and we are probably the first generation of Chinese people who do not make fictional financial writing. So, in the end, the financial writing and intellectual property, plagiarism, where its legal boundaries are, in fact, we are not very clear. Before the law also has not some famous cases, in fact, I think, I and her this matter is very good, now through this kind of judicial proceedings, so that people on intellectual property issues, from a legal level, I think it is very good thing. So, no matter how the sentence is awarded, I will disclose the case file to the public.　　It is a basic attitude for the society to get experience from this case, to learn from it or to draw lessons from it. Reporter: I heard that Mr. Wu twice to show your support, but liuqing that the first of these proofs is not the beginning of some, is the afterthought, and can not prove anything. In addition, he believes that Mr. Wu's testimony is not reliable, such as he can prove two interviews you have interviewed him, but two interviews how can you say all the same?　　What do you think about it? Wu Xiaobo: I think, since she became Wu old 9 years of assistant, she should give Wu old dozen a telephone, ask Wu old, Wu Lao have told me some words. For example, you just told me that this information is later given or Wu old to give, she never asked me, and did not ask Wu old, but she openly said these words, in fact, I think this is a very irresponsible thing. Feng Ya, really, I tell you, my pressure is very big, I did not speak a word with the public opinion. Some people think that I did not speak to me by default. In fact, I was thinking, I do not speak because, first, I respect the liuqing to uphold intellectual property rights, and secondly, I respect the court, I think since the court level, it is a solution to my lawsuit and liuqing one of the most fair way. But a year to endure is not easy, for me, is really a experience, I would like to thank this lawsuit.