No MVC, only MC

I personally think that there is no MVC model, only the MC model.
In the Web framework, the so-called V (View) is not a web layer.
. But the presentation layer. The presentation layer must also have its own logic. In this way, we can see that each layer has M and C. However, different levels tend to have different roles on MC.
I guess this is why people have long wanted to strip the display from the logic, but have never achieved it perfectly: even the upper-layer display layer must have some control display logic, and once the display layer is complex, these logics will inevitably follow.