Article 9: no argument

The arguments from a QQ group were not sorted out in the original article.

Here, the "argument" refers to the long-standing discussion without any result.

Chen Yong-consulting-Beijing (139 xxxxxx) 2013-06-14 10:04:40 view messages before and after

Well, I have seen a lot of arguments and talked about my views on the correct method of arguments. You can't come up with any results.

Chen Yong-consulting-Beijing (139 xxxxxx) 10:05:08

The object and purpose of the debate should not be discussed first. It is assumed that it is a question worthy of debate and an object worth debate.

Chen Yong-consulting-Beijing (139 xxxxxx) 10:06:03

One thing you must be aware of is: if you haven't persuaded the other party for a long time, you must ask the question: "is what I said unconvincing? Otherwise, why does he disagree with me ?" This is very important.

Chen Yong-consulting-Beijing (139 xxxxxx) 10:07:05

First, it cannot be assumed that the other party is a fool (otherwise, there is no need to argue, because only a fool can argue with a fool ). The second question comes: "Why does he not understand it? Or cannot I hear it ?"

Chen Yong-consulting-Beijing (139 xxxxxx) 10:07:48

I have participated in and seen a lot of arguments. If one party is really much better than the other, the problem can be solved, and the debate will not continue.

Chen Yong-consulting-Beijing (139 xxxxxx) 10:08:23

Most of the arguments that can last for a long time are in fact the balance between the two sides and lack the necessary persuasiveness.

Chen Yong-consulting-Beijing (139 xxxxxx) 10:09:14

At this time, there may be two ways out: 1. in fact, you have better evidence (for example, "facts" are evidence that cannot be refuted; for example, "data" is an embodiment of objective reality ), but I forgot to talk about it because I fell into the quagmire of debate.

Chen Yong-consulting-Beijing (139 xxxxxx) 10:09:47

2. In fact, you are not able to persuade the other party. At this time, more powerful people should be invited to participate in arbitration.

Chen Yong-consulting-Beijing (139 xxxxxx) 10:10:32

I understood this for the first time. My master smiled 10 years ago and said, "I have discovered that there are only two technical problems that I cannot meet :"

Chen Yong-consulting-Beijing (139 xxxxxx) 10:10:52

"1 is not happy, 2 is a real master, in a word ".

Chen Yong-consulting-Beijing (139 xxxxxx) 10:11:18

Therefore, if it is not the latter, avoid the former.

Chen Yong-consulting-Beijing (139 xxxxxx) 10:12:18

Therefore, you must balance your persuasiveness with the understanding of the other party. Many times, we feel that the understanding of each other is wrong, and we forget that our own persuasiveness may also be wrong.