[Software Life] the sorrow of university education -- Analysis on the PK of the students enrolled at Tsinghua Peking University

On shuimu, the Sichuan admissions teacher of Tsinghua Peking University discussed the issues of major and students. However, this caused a new thought-provoking topic: the huge risks facing China's education.

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Sender: qingrun (qingrun), email area: Sichuan
Question: Re: about Liao zhijian, Q: Sm students
Mailing station: shuimu community (Mon Jul 19 10:49:28 2010), within the station

In fact, geophysical physics is also a very good professional.
Pragmatic majors in China cannot find good students, and hot and Professional Economic and Financial majors cannot be regarded as pragmatic and technical majors-This students with opinions don't have to argue, it doesn't mean much, some time ago, I wrote an article about my current major and student problems, which is brilliant.
The basic science and technology are currently second-rate students. After coming out, many people are still investing in the direction of economy and finance, or changing their majors. Chinese research and basic research can only become increasingly empty, increasingly bad.

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Sender: sly1983 (Stone), email area: Sichuan
Question: Re: about Liao zhijian, Q: Sm students
Mailing station: shuimu community (Mon Jul 19 10:53:23 2010), within the station
I am very disappointed with the popularity of XXX in China over the past decade.

The first 10 years were full of bio-expertise, and everyone thought they could make money,
Later, the bio-bubble burst and everyone saw that the financial industry had a better taste.

This shows that the teaching in the middle school is too embedded in a closed examination teaching system.
They cannot talk to universities, and their autonomous abilities are severely depressed or not developed.

When you volunteer to fill in a major, you are almost confused about the subjects you want to learn,
It can only be inferred from external information,

This is the final cause.
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Sender: qingrun (qingrun), email area: Sichuan
Question: Re: about Liao zhijian, Q: Sm students
Mailing station: shuimu community (Mon Jul 19 11:13:22 2010), within the station

Yes.
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Speaking of the Computer fever 15 years ago, the student unions in the computer department developed a few programming programs, less interested, and more dependent on the relationship, as a result, when I entered the code field as a group of developers
Find well-done programmers, high-level programmers have almost no computer expertise. mathematics, physics, and electronics majors are often the most competent people in code, design, and other fields.
Hey.
Later, there was no accounting or computer majors in almost no school, and the result was that such students did nothing after graduation.
It seems that I passed Chuan Gong five years ago and found that New Majors: Software Engineering, network engineering, online game development ......
I was about to vomit at that time. Is software engineering a major that my undergraduate course can learn? My God, In order to lie to students, the school has no need for anything. The professional name is awesome, and the result is no teacher, and it is not a subject that undergraduates can understand.
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A very good graduate from the mathematics department came to top in the year. before graduation, he passed the system analyst examination and obtained the certificate. When receiving news from our project team, he pointed out the design model, let's talk about it here.
This is not the case here. There is a problem there and what should I do. I asked for the System Analyst position as soon as I opened my mouth to the company. I thought it was also elevation B. There was also elevation A, followed by the system analyst C.
Then he put him on the project team of Deng Mao, who was the best theoretical engineer in topic, and he made things like process theory in topic, two days later, people disappeared, and their cell phones were not turned on. They were so anxious that they could not find the new students that they could not tell their parents.
In the afternoon, he finally got through the phone. On the phone, the student said that this was not what he wanted. It felt different from what he imagined.
In this case, he hasn't been to the project development team yet. It's not a lot of theoretical things. It's just about your ability to write code and understand the design requirements.
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Sender: sly1983 (Stone), email area: Sichuan
Question: Re: about Liao zhijian, Q: Sm students
Mailing station: shuimu community (Mon Jul 19 11:18:14 2010), within the station
Oh, you reminded me that I posted only the closed questions about middle school.

The University also has such problems as mechanical repetition at a low level.

In essence, our college staff have lost their autonomy.
Major
How to organize teaching reasonably and organically
How to teach people to fish instead of fish

These are not their top concerns.
Or they didn't think much about it.

They are thinking about how to increase projects, apply for funds, and how to combine majors with enrollment in this framework.
Then ......

Colleges and universities still in the planned economy Management Mode
Then the administrative staff planning framework is established, and then students are recruited.

Four-year round Production diploma on the ground changing Assembly Line
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Sender: qingrun (qingrun), email area: Sichuan
Question: Re: about Liao zhijian, Q: Sm students
Mailing station: shuimu community (Mon Jul 19 11:23:28 2010), within the station

Agree.
That's it.
When I gave a Master's Degree lecture to Beihang in, the students finally thought that my course was the most valuable course in that semester. It was different from the teacher in the school, it is a copy of the teaching case that remains unchanged for decades.
I have trained more than a dozen training sessions over the years, and I have never used repeated teaching cases. Each on-site operation case is presented on site, analyzed on site, and the results are displayed on site.
I have never prepared lessons, because everything is ready-made and I don't need to prepare any content. I just need to take the previous ppt and make a slight modification. Except for the basic operations, the case has never been repeated.
It is estimated that the vast majority of College Teachers cannot do this-at least the Computer Major is certainly the case. Most of the students I stayed in that age were more or less related, and I will not have any practical experience afterwards. It is not clear now. Haha.
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Sender: sly1983 (Stone), email area: Sichuan
Question: Re: about Liao zhijian, Q: Sm students
Mailing station: shuimu community (Mon Jul 19 11:28:13 2010), within the station

Based on the three majors I have read

Biological Engineering, educational psychology, and economic history and historical anthropology

There are similar problems, and most teachers cannot introduce their own majors very well.
Lack of ability to generalize a rational academic context
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Sender: qingrun (qingrun), email area: Sichuan
Question: Re: about Liao zhijian, Q: Sm students
Mailing station: shuimu community (Mon Jul 19 11:40:16 2010), within the station

Yes, it seems to be your sorrow. Looking back in the future, it is the sorrow of the country.
In the future, China will see a break of generations of talents that do not seem to have been cut off. It will not be long before it continues.
At that time, the impact may be greater and more cruel than the Cultural Revolution.

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